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Old 11-11-2007, 08:19 PM   #1
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Gibbs can't be absolved for everything, but watching the game today I didn't see coaching cost us the game. You say that they couldn't come up with a play to score, well if Cooley can keep his ass from jumping offsides then Thrash scores TD #3 and Skins win. I saw MULTIPLE times when the Skins had the chance to make plays to help win the game (Smoot penalty on the first drive, that long pass to Reggie Brown that Pierson had covered and if McNabb made a good throw he would have had it, the two INTs Godfrey dropped, Cooley jumping offsides). You can look to coaching in some of the games this year, but the players lost the game today. I saw guys in position to win the game and fail to make the plays. All a coach can do is put you in position to make plays, you have to make the plays. I am sick about this game, but I truly do not see how you blame the coaches, except maybe for the clock management that left them without Time Outs.

This reactionary BS after every loss drives me f'ing crazy. Why doesn't anyone ever jump on the players for their shitty plays? If you ask me, there were multiple plays that cost them the game, but if you wanted to make it really simple and look at one single play that cost them the game it was Cooley jumping offsides that cost them a TD to put them game away. Why isn't anyone jumping on Cooley for his mistake?

you cant be serious, Santana Moss was absolutely blasted after his game in Green Bay. Fans were asking for Portis' head before the past two games, the players are constantly rediculed while the coaching staff is left alone.
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you cant be serious, Santana Moss was absolutely blasted after his game in Green Bay. Fans were asking for Portis' head before the past two games, the players are constantly rediculed while the coaching staff is left alone.
I just don't really see any argument. Besides "he doesn't have that killer instinct" (what the hell does that mean exactly?) What is it exactly that Joe Gibbs did to lose the game today? I know everyone is pissed. I was pissed, my wife was pissed at me because I was such an asshole during the game, but I just don't see where you watched the game today and were like, Joe Gibbs has to go. Players didn't make plays. What genius play would you have called to score a TD inside of the 3 yard line? How could Gibbs have made different decisions to win the game? What exactly was it that Gibbs did to cost the Skins the game? I saw a bunch of players fail to make plays but I didn't see a coaching staff lose a game.
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:28 PM   #3
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I just don't really see any argument. Besides "he doesn't have that killer instinct" (what the hell does that mean exactly?) What is it exactly that Joe Gibbs did to lose the game today? I know everyone is pissed. I was pissed, my wife was pissed at me because I was such an asshole during the game, but I just don't see where you watched the game today and were like, Joe Gibbs has to go. Players didn't make plays. What genius play would you have called to score a TD inside of the 3 yard line? How could Gibbs have made different decisions to win the game? What exactly was it that Gibbs did to cost the Skins the game? I saw a bunch of players fail to make plays but I didn't see a coaching staff lose a game.
I think it occured to me that he really has no idea whats going on when he decided to run a jumbo pack from the 8 yard line, and then continue to do so 6 times in a row.
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I just don't really see any argument. Besides "he doesn't have that killer instinct" (what the hell does that mean exactly?) What is it exactly that Joe Gibbs did to lose the game today? I know everyone is pissed. I was pissed, my wife was pissed at me because I was such an asshole during the game, but I just don't see where you watched the game today and were like, Joe Gibbs has to go. Players didn't make plays. What genius play would you have called to score a TD inside of the 3 yard line? How could Gibbs have made different decisions to win the game? What exactly was it that Gibbs did to cost the Skins the game? I saw a bunch of players fail to make plays but I didn't see a coaching staff lose a game.
There were two series at the goaline where we could have BURIED them. Case closed, game over.

He chose to kick meaningless fieldgoals.

Last time I checked, he won his first SuperBowl by going for it.
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There were two series at the goaline where we could have BURIED them. Case closed, game over.

He chose to kick meaningless fieldgoals.

Last time I checked, he won his first SuperBowl by going for it.
We should have scored a TD.

Joe Gibbs is like the 35th most highest person on that list regarding failure to score in that situation. Lots of blame to go around. If we couldn't score in 3 plays, what makes you think the 4th would be the charm?

Here's the big point though: the field goal STILL should have been enough to win. That's a five point lead with 4 mins to go and no timeouts. It doesn't take a very good defensive effort to hold the lead.
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We should have scored a TD.

Joe Gibbs is like the 35th most highest person on that list regarding failure to score in that situation. Lots of blame to go around. If we couldn't score in 3 plays, what makes you think the 4th would be the charm?

Here's the big point though: the field goal STILL should have been enough to win. That's a five point lead with 4 mins to go and no timeouts. It doesn't take a very good defensive effort to hold the lead.

Bottom line, fourth quarter 4 minutes and change left. They run 50 gut, it's over. I firmly believe that. No, we have to run right. Lose 2 yards and are forced into a pass. Dance with who brung you. You would think a Hall of Famer would realize that.
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Bottom line, fourth quarter 4 minutes and change left. They run 50 gut, it's over. I firmly believe that. No, we have to run right. Lose 2 yards and are forced into a pass. Dance with who brung you. You would think a Hall of Famer would realize that.
Maybe, maybe not.

I think it's pretty nitpicky to argue outside run vs. inside run. Hindsight is 20-20.
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While we're discussing play calling, I would have LOVED to have seen at least a few screen passes with all that pressure they were trying to bring.
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Maybe, maybe not.

I think it's pretty nitpicky to argue outside run vs. inside run. Hindsight is 20-20.
Well guess what, Mr. Hindsight. Throwing away three games that you dominated your opponent leaves you in no man's land.

Detroit is probably a playoff team this year. We are head and shoulders above them. Anyone with a pulse could tell you that.
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