Its time for joe to step down.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

your kidding right?

No, just wondering what in the heck you are complaining about regarding the jumbo formation.

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

No, just wondering what in the heck you are complaining about regarding the jumbo formation.

Do you know anything about football?

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Do you know anything about football?

Actually, no, he doesn't.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Do you know anything about football?

Do you?

You seem to know a lot about talking in riddles, but I'm not sure how far that takes you on a football fourm.

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Do you?

You seem to know a lot about talking in riddles, but I'm not sure how far that takes you on a football fourm.

Lets see, a Jumbo package is a play you run from the goal line to punch it into the endzone, because your inches away. Jumbo is not a formation you run from the 8 yard line because your bunching the entire offense into one area and even if you get a little bit of a push Portis will more than likely fall over one of his own men, by god, thats what exactly happened. But then again I only talk in riddle because I have no clue what im talking about.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Lets see, a Jumbo package is a play you run from the goal line to punch it into the endzone, because your inches away. Jumbo is not a formation you run from the 8 yard line because your bunching the entire offense into one area and even if you get a little bit of a push Portis will more than likely fall over one of his own men, by god, thats what exactly happened. But then again I only talk in riddle because I have no clue what im talking about.

Well, what IS a formation that a team should run from the seven yard line, and why is that necessarily better than the Jumbo?

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, what IS a formation that a team should run from the seven yard line, and why is that necessarily better than the Jumbo?

If you plan on running it 6 times in a row from the 7 yard line, then you run a spread formation, which would not allow the eagles to stack the box and key in on Portis, they would have to play honest and it would give him more room to run the ball.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

If you plan on running it 6 times in a row from the 7 yard line, then you run a spread formation, which would not allow the eagles to stack the box and key in on Portis, they would have to play honest and it would give him more room to run the ball.

Yeah, he would have more room, but he also has more unblocked guys. That's not a good idea with Portis who tends to dance.

There are pros and cons to running out of any formation and a lot of it has to do with how the D is going to play it. I don't understand why it's so black and white to you.

It's not like you can't run out of the Jumbo...that's what it is designed for.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Lets see, a Jumbo package is a play you run from the goal line to punch it into the endzone, because your inches away. Jumbo is not a formation you run from the 8 yard line because your bunching the entire offense into one area and even if you get a little bit of a push Portis will more than likely fall over one of his own men, by god, thats what exactly happened. But then again I only talk in riddle because I have no clue what im talking about.

Man that jumbo bullshit needs to be throw out of the damn playbook. Period. That's the 80's mentality that Gibbs and Bugel have. We were just fine spreading the field out and running the offense. The offense was doing just fine. Then we get down close and bring in all the heavy guys and that shit DOES NOT WORK!!! Didn't the damn coaches learn anything from the Giants game???? You can still run the regular offense with regular personel down on the goaline. I watch Indy do it all the time. Indy never ever brings in the heavy slow guys yet they always seem to run it well on the goaline with Harrison and Wayne still in the game. Plus you still have the best guys on the field. Sorry but Lorenzo Alexander is no threat to catch a pass. It's just one less guy the defense has to defend. That 's on Gibbs and he needs to adjust.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Man that jumbo bullshit needs to be throw out of the damn playbook. Period. That's the 80's mentality that Gibbs and Bugel have. We were just fine spreading the field out and running the offense. The offense was doing just fine. Then we get down close and bring in all the heavy guys and that shit DOES NOT WORK!!! Didn't the damn coaches learn anything from the Giants game???? You can still run the regular offense with regular personel down on the goaline. I watch Indy do it all the time. Indy never ever brings in the heavy slow guys yet they always seem to run it well on the goaline with Harrison and Wayne still in the game. Plus you still have the best guys on the field. Sorry but Lorenzo Alexander is no threat to catch a pass. It's just one less guy the defense has to defend. That 's on Gibbs and he needs to adjust.

I disagree with that. There are times when it is good to show the other team that you will impose your will on them. The only problem is that there are also times when you need to run a naked bootleg or play action to Cooley off of it. Too bad our leader can't figure that out.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Man that jumbo bullshit needs to be throw out of the damn playbook. Period. That's the 80's mentality that Gibbs and Bugel have. We were just fine spreading the field out and running the offense. The offense was doing just fine. Then we get down close and bring in all the heavy guys and that shit DOES NOT WORK!!! Didn't the damn coaches learn anything from the Giants game???? You can still run the regular offense with regular personel down on the goaline. I watch Indy do it all the time. Indy never ever brings in the heavy slow guys yet they always seem to run it well on the goaline with Harrison and Wayne still in the game. Plus you still have the best guys on the field. Sorry but Lorenzo Alexander is no threat to catch a pass. It's just one less guy the defense has to defend. That 's on Gibbs and he needs to adjust.

I agree we should go out in this next offseason, and get a big bodied TE who we are comfortable with playing on both passing and rushing downs. In the short run, we will be fine with Alexander. Him being in is really selling our PA fakes and getting us open receivers running everywhere.

I don't understand your fascination with the spread. Just cause the best QBs ever make it effective doesn't mean everyone and their grandmother should copy it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I agree we should go out in this next offseason, and get a big bodied TE who we are comfortable with playing on both passing and rushing downs. In the short run, we will be fine with Alexander. Him being in is really selling our PA fakes and getting us open receivers running everywhere.

I don't understand your fascination with the spread. Just cause the best QBs ever make it effective doesn't mean everyone and their grandmother should copy it.

IMO you stick with what's working. So far this year when we bring in the heavy guys around the goaline it DOES NOT WORK. This game and the Giants game. Enough is enough. Just keep the regualr guys in since we are not blowing guys off the ball on the goaline.

I think you saw today how much better the offense is when we get our guys spread out a little bit and running hurry up. Nothing wrong opening things up.