Its time for joe to step down.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

You clearly weren't watching the game if you think the Eagles threw the kitchen sink at Campbell on 3rd and 7. I just replayed that play to be sure that I saw it correctly the first time. They in fact rushed ONLY the front four, with two LB's dropping back after faking blitz. It should not have come to that play if Cooley stays onside the play before, but still a ridiculously conservative call on third and long.

Those front four were getting through our protection. I did see the play thank you. The linebackers dropped back so there was nowhere to throw the ball to. A draw play at least gave us a chance to score and at least gave us a chip shot field goal. I will take any gain on that play rather than a sack and a loss or worse, Campbell getting hit and fumbling. It was exactly what we should've called on that play.

[Beemnseven]

With the way Brian Westbrook violated our D, and when Portis was gauging the Eagles run defense, I just wonder why Gibbs didn't go for it when it was fourth and inches two different times.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

With the way Brian Westbrook violated our D, and when Portis was gauging the Eagles run defense, I just wonder why Gibbs didn't go for it when it was fourth and inches two different times.

Our overall lack of balls is "ridicules." Gibbs always talks about those "momentum changing" plays. Funny how we're never the ones making them. We gotta man up once and while. The only ounce of stones I've seen all year was the on-sides kick last week.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Our overall lack of balls is "ridicules." Gibbs always talks about those "momentum changing" plays. Funny how we're never the ones making them. We gotta man up once and while. The only ounce of stones I've seen all year was the on-sides kick last week.

AMEN! This coaching staff has forgotten what it's like to play aggressive, risk taking football. It's another example of the way Gibbs is polar opposite of the way he used to lead.

[#56fanatic]

another thing, how many times are we going to let visiting teams that are struggling, that are having turmoil, fighting amongst themselves, coaches all in all a team on the way out, come into our house and beat us. I think the staff does not prepare out team to the fullest. Damn second half leads getting away from us in our house is unforgivable. Injuries this and injuries that, I am sick of hearing it. GW got conservative and let McNabb pick us apart. JG got conservative when the game was on the line and ran 3 straight fucking times and kicked a field goal , when all 3 of the fucking TD's were scored by JC THROWING THE FUCKING BALL. I am sick of this fucking staff. I apologize for the F bombs, I generally dont drop them like this.

this loss, just like the other 3 (not counting NE) are unforgivable. all 3 were lost when we have a lead late in the 4th quarter.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

With the way Brian Westbrook violated our D, and when Portis was gauging the Eagles run defense, I just wonder why Gibbs didn't go for it when it was fourth and inches two different times.

The first time, yes, I would've went for it. The second time, no way you go for it. We were only up by 2 points. At least kicking the field goal forced the Eagles to get into the end zone rather than going up by one with a field goal.

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

The first time, yes, I would've went for it. The second time, no way you go for it. We were only up by 2 points. At least kicking the field goal forced the Eagles to get into the end zone rather than going up by one with a field goal.

Wrong. If had gone for it and made it, game over (we win). If we had gone for it and failed, the Eagles would have been backed up and with with sixty five or seventy yards for a try at a field goal. It was a very bad call, especially considering that the Eagles were moving the ball well and Taylor was out of the game. The loss was likely from the moment the call was made. Until then, he had the advantage.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Crazyhorse1

Wrong. If had gone for it and made it, game over (we win). If we had gone for it and failed, the Eagles would have been backed up and with with sixty five or seventy yards for a try at a field goal. It was a very bad call, especially considering that the Eagles were moving the ball well and Taylor was out of the game. The loss was likely from the moment the call was made. Until then, he had the advantage.

Wait, so you're saying we could miss the field goal and that's ok because the Eagles would have 60 some yards to get down field (much less of course to get just a field goal) and at the same time you point out that the Eagles were marching down the field easily anyway. If they're marching down the field with ease why not at least force them to go all the way then part of the way?

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Those front four were getting through our protection. I did see the play thank you. The linebackers dropped back so there was nowhere to throw the ball to. A draw play at least gave us a chance to score and at least gave us a chip shot field goal. I will take any gain on that play rather than a sack and a loss or worse, Campbell getting hit and fumbling. It was exactly what we should've called on that play.

On a draw, the tackles should allow the ends to charge upfield, which they did just fine, but with the LBs staying home, that play had ZERO chance of working. I recall a third and goal play just before the half in the first Philly game this year where the coaches trusted Campbell to make a play - that worked out pretty well. FOX even flashed Campbell's red zone stats: 6 TDs, 0 INTs. I trust that if nothing is there he'll throw it out of the end zone - no harm. I just like my chances more with Campbell passing on 3rd and goal from the 7 A LOT MORE than running in that situation. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that count.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

On a draw, the tackles should allow the ends to charge upfield, which they did just fine, but with the LBs staying home, that play had ZERO chance of working. I recall a third and goal play just before the half in the first Philly game this year where the coaches trusted Campbell to make a play - that worked out pretty well. FOX even flashed Campbell's red zone stats: 6 TDs, 0 INTs. I trust that if nothing is there he'll throw it out of the end zone - no harm. I just like my chances more with Campbell passing on 3rd and goal from the 7 A LOT MORE than running in that situation. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that count.

Fair enough. We'll agree to disagree.