Tied for 5th best record in NFC

[JWsleep]

We don't need to beat Dallas in Dallas to get a WC. We need to beat TB, Buf, and Chi, and then Minn, and either NY on the road or Dallas at home, IMO. Maybe we can even drop one of these, depending on how it goes around the league. I see 9 as pretty reachable (barring more sickening collapses!), and 10 as a possibility, especially if ST can come back, and THomas, perhaps as well.

TB is a MUCH bigger game than Dallas in Dallas. I hate them, but it's going to be very tough. Could happen. But we're not dead by any respect if it does. Big question whether 9, or even 10 in some scenarios, will get you in. But it could go the other way as well.

Take care of all business at home and win a tough road game or two. Dallas may be a bridge too far without Taylor, IMO. But Tampa Bay is not.

[djnemo65]

A better thread title would perhaps be tied for 7th seed in the NFC, since that is what matters. I do think it's possible but it's going to be tough, especially with our battered roster. If we can move the ball as consistently as we did on Sunday I think we will have a good shot to win 4-5 games over the home stretch, but if we regress back to earlier form I think the days of our defense covering for us our pretty much over. We have seen mini-offensive explosions several times during the Gibbs 2.0 era and they have never seemed to carry over - the key exception being the epic run to close the 05 season. Let's hope Sunday was a revelation for the players and playcallers alike.

[#56fanatic]

look, I am all about the Skins making the playoffs, but lets get real people. We are 1-2 in our division, play Dallas twice and NY "football" Giants. Plus we are on the road in Tampa, Minnesota. I am sorry, but I dont think there is anyway in hell we beat the Cowboys. They are too damn good. there is something to say for being die hard fans, but at some point that becomes crazy when you talk about "when we beat the cowboys and giants and this and that" What gives anyone any reason to think we can beat any of those teams? We have not shown anything that gives an impression of being a quality team that can win big games. We fold at the end. Good teams dont fold.

I am sick of hearing the cowboys will start losing, and Green bay will start losing neither can keep up their win streaks.... THEY ARE GOOD TEAMS!! There is a difference there, they find ways to win, make plays when they have to. We find ways to lose and let other teams make the plays. Until we make a change philisophically, this is who we are. Dont you think if anything was going to change it would have all ready. Its been 4 years of the same crap.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

look, I am all about the Skins making the playoffs, but lets get real people. We are 1-2 in our division, play Dallas twice and NY "football" Giants. Plus we are on the road in Tampa, Minnesota. I am sorry, but I dont think there is anyway in hell we beat the Cowboys. They are too damn good. there is something to say for being die hard fans, but at some point that becomes crazy when you talk about "when we beat the cowboys and giants and this and that" What gives anyone any reason to think we can beat any of those teams? We have not shown anything that gives an impression of being a quality team that can win big games. We fold at the end. Good teams dont fold.

I am sick of hearing the cowboys will start losing, and Green bay will start losing neither can keep up their win streaks.... THEY ARE GOOD TEAMS!! There is a difference there, they find ways to win, make plays when they have to. We find ways to lose and let other teams make the plays. Until we make a change philisophically, this is who we are. Dont you think if anything was going to change it would have all ready. Its been 4 years of the same crap.

To say we don't have a chance. Well, its just Un-American.

[Ocliw]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

look, I am all about the Skins making the playoffs, but lets get real people. We are 1-2 in our division, play Dallas twice and NY "football" Giants. Plus we are on the road in Tampa, Minnesota. I am sorry, but I dont think there is anyway in hell we beat the Cowboys. They are too damn good. there is something to say for being die hard fans, but at some point that becomes crazy when you talk about "when we beat the cowboys and giants and this and that" What gives anyone any reason to think we can beat any of those teams? We have not shown anything that gives an impression of being a quality team that can win big games. We fold at the end. Good teams dont fold.

I am sick of hearing the cowboys will start losing, and Green bay will start losing neither can keep up their win streaks.... THEY ARE GOOD TEAMS!! There is a difference there, they find ways to win, make plays when they have to. We find ways to lose and let other teams make the plays. Until we make a change philisophically, this is who we are. Dont you think if anything was going to change it would have all ready. Its been 4 years of the same crap.

A realist.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ocliw

A realist.

One person's realist is another person's pessimist.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

One person's realist is another person's pessimist.

Pessimism?? I call it the truth. Too many burgandy & Gold shades around here. I love the Redskins, but seriously 4 years of the same shit. year in and year out. There is optomism, and I would be optomistic if there was something to be optomistic about regarding this season, there isn't. There hasn't been for the 4 years Coach Joe has been here. Same shit every year, pay ass loads of money to players and coaches and no one can get out of there own way. There is one thing I am optomistic about. Jason Campbell. I think he is going to be a good QB in this league. The fact is we have or had a window of opportunity with this roster to win. We brought in players to win now, not to rebuild and we just have not won. They will have to blow up this roster in the next year, meaning new players on both sides of the ball. Now, having Jason here may make up for those growing pains of new players, but again if Joe retires again then its new coaches and new schemes AGAIN. it is very frustrating to lose, its even more frustrating to lose every year becuase of the same shit that has plagued this team for years.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Pessimism?? I call it the truth. Too many burgandy & Gold shades around here. I love the Redskins, but seriously 4 years of the same shit. year in and year out. There is optomism, and I would be optomistic if there was something to be optomistic about regarding this season, there isn't. There hasn't been for the 4 years Coach Joe has been here. Same shit every year, pay ass loads of money to players and coaches and no one can get out of there own way. There is one thing I am optomistic about. Jason Campbell. I think he is going to be a good QB in this league. The fact is we have or had a window of opportunity with this roster to win. We brought in players to win now, not to rebuild and we just have not won. They will have to blow up this roster in the next year, meaning new players on both sides of the ball. Now, having Jason here may make up for those growing pains of new players, but again if Joe retires again then its new coaches and new schemes AGAIN. it is very frustrating to lose, its even more frustrating to lose every year becuase of the same shit that has plagued this team for years.

Hey, call it whatever you want, and I'll call it whatever I want.

I think you're getting a little crazy here talking about blowing up the team after this year. Sorry but that's not going to happen. Yes there will be some turnover and that's normal. But I don't see why the roster would be drastically overhauled.

[BringBackJoeT]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

look, I am all about the Skins making the playoffs, but lets get real people. We are 1-2 in our division, play Dallas twice and NY "football" Giants. Plus we are on the road in Tampa, Minnesota. I am sorry, but I dont think there is anyway in hell we beat the Cowboys. They are too damn good. there is something to say for being die hard fans, but at some point that becomes crazy when you talk about "when we beat the cowboys and giants and this and that" What gives anyone any reason to think we can beat any of those teams? We have not shown anything that gives an impression of being a quality team that can win big games. We fold at the end. Good teams dont fold.

I am sick of hearing the cowboys will start losing, and Green bay will start losing neither can keep up their win streaks.... THEY ARE GOOD TEAMS!! There is a difference there, they find ways to win, make plays when they have to. We find ways to lose and let other teams make the plays. Until we make a change philisophically, this is who we are. Dont you think if anything was going to change it would have all ready. Its been 4 years of the same crap.

A realist indeed. I heard this morning that the spread is 10 1/2. I'm surprised it's not more. We saw in the second half against the Eagles the vulnerability of a Taylor-less Redskins secondary, and in a few days we'll be playing against one of the best pass-happy teams in the league. The bottom line is that we only win this game if we score three touchdowns or more, because the Cowboys are going to get in the end zone multiple times, there's just no question about it. And it's not going to be easy for us matching those TDs, because, as we've seen the last two games and as we knew before, the ultimate strength of this team is a Portis-lead running game, and the Cowboys have the fifth best running defense in the league (they average giving up only 86 total running yards a game). So, while we can point to our general success against the Cowboys over the last two seasons, and maybe some intanglibles (like, for example, the ultimate desire of the burgandy and gold to beat the Cowboys), the fact is that we're playing a team this Sunday that has been playing extremely sound football the past nine weeks and is not nearly as injury-damaged as we are right now.

[Jamaican'Skin]

fanatic,

remember that it was a costly Santana Moss fumble that caused us to lose the GB game. They were not outplaying us by any means. The Giants game was a complete second half collapse, and we STILL should have one that game. For the past few years, our record against Dallas has been pretty darn good. Don't count us out yet. Didn't we lose 5 straight in '05? Didn't we then make it to the second round of the playoffs? Oh ye of little faith, we're gonna make some noise come this week, straight thru to December. Trust me, that ain't the Kool Aid talking.

[sandtrapjack]

Detroit is slipping big time losing 3 in a row. Washington beats the G-men, and they own the tie breaker over Arizona (yeah they are still in the hunt). Carolina has big time QB issues and will not get the WC.

If Washington beats the Giants and takes care of business in the NFC, then they should be a front runner for the second wildcard. I just do not see anyone else in the NFC that can do it. The only teams you need to watch are New Orleans, Arizona and Detroit.

But lets say the Giants get the first WC, if Washington is tied with Arizona and Detroit after week 17, Washington wins the head-to-head. So the one you really need to watch is New Orleans. That is why Washington needs to circle the Dallas game at FedEx to end the season. IF (and I mean IF) Dallas secures the #1 seed in the NFC, then they will not play the starters in that game a FedEx and it might be a win you need to secure that second wildcard.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Detroit is slipping big time losing 3 in a row. Washington beats the G-men, and they own the tie breaker over Arizona (yeah they are still in the hunt). Carolina has big time QB issues and will not get the WC.

If Washington beats the Giants and takes care of business in the NFC, then they should be a front runner for the second wildcard. I just do not see anyone else in the NFC that can do it. The only teams you need to watch are New Orleans, Arizona and Detroit.

But lets say the Giants get the first WC, if Washington is tied with Arizona and Detroit after week 17, Washington wins the head-to-head. So the one you really need to watch is New Orleans. That is why Washington needs to circle the Dallas game at FedEx to end the season. IF (and I mean IF) Dallas secures the #1 seed in the NFC, then they will not play the starters in that game a FedEx and it might be a win you need to secure that second wildcard.

Would you want the team to rest the starters? Even if the Redskins were the #1 seed, I couldn't stomach losing to the Cowboys and allowing them to get into the playoffs.

[MTK]

Last week was such a golden opportunity to solidify ourselves in the playoff race. Oh well, time to move on I guess.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Last week was such a golden opportunity to solidify ourselves in the playoff race. Oh well, time to move on I guess.

For what it's worth, the sabermetrics say that the Eagles played their best game of the season since the Detroit game. That's their best game in the last 7 weeks.

I'm sure our injuries contributed to that, but I think it's best if we just tip our cap to them on this one, and we'll see em next year.

[hagams]

Having the 5th best record is great, but the play we have is not the 5th best in the NFC. We dropped to games that would have ESPN talking about us as a sleeper (GB, and Philly). We haven't been playing good, we've been playing good enough.
Sorry, I didn't mean to bring negatives to the thread. I'm happy with the winning record though. We need to keep winning. Bring on the Cow-girls.

Q: "You know what you call a drug ring in Dallas?"
A: "A huddle."