Vince Young overrated?

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Yeah, I picked Atlanta as my sleeper this season for that very reason: if Vick is so mediocre then there shouldn't be that great a drop-off resulting from his absence. This was a strong team that had to totally collapse to miss the playoffs the last two years.

The fact that they are such a joke now has to lend Vick the QB at least a little heightened cachet right?

While I might be a little biased because I went to VT, but I think that this whole "Vick is overrated" in itself overrated. Everyone is just repeating it after hearing on ESPN or reading in some sports magazine. Yes he is not the best QB out there but he is a great player.

He is showing how valuable he was to Atlanta by not being there right now.

I think the problem was that they spent too much money on Vick and the D that they couldn't bring in decent WRs. Name me the pro bowl receivers that played with Vick. Also, look at Brady and how much better his numbers look with a new set of receivers. There were countless times when I saw White and Lellie drop very very catchable balls.

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Originally Posted by TheBigD

While I might be a little biased because I went to VT, but I think that this whole "Vick is overrated" in itself overrated. Everyone is just repeating it after hearing on ESPN or reading in some sports magazine. Yes he is not the best QB out there but he is a great player.

He is showing how valuable he was to Atlanta by not being there right now.

I think the problem was that they spent too much money on Vick and the D that they couldn't bring in decent WRs. Name me the pro bowl receivers that played with Vick. Also, look at Brady and how much better his numbers look with a new set of receivers. There were countless times when I saw White and Lellie drop very very catchable balls.

Back in 2002 when he had started playing, the emphasis was not on team speed on D back then. His running skills had never been seen before and his passing acumen was benefiting from that because teams already had no solution to his running skills, and thus could never really play their game. He was great because he was 23 years old, and no one could stop his game.

Since then, everyone got faster on defense. Yes, he rushed for 1,000 yards last season, but that's because he ran it 119 times, a lot more than he did (or needed to) in 2002.

If you add the value of his runs to that of his horrible passing, you come out with a player who's overall value is somewhere around the level of Eli Manning, or JP Losman. Additionally, to get his true value out of running, you have to decrease the carries the RB is getting, and put the ball in Vicks hands more. This increases the risk of turnovers by a lot.

Even if he was playing now, and leading all QBs in rushing yards, he still wouldn't be very good. A small upgrade over Harrington? Possibly. Would this awful Falcons team be a playoff contender? Not even close.