Gibbs leaving? Not a chance

[MTRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

You don't think Gibbs has decided whether or not he wants to win. Unbelievable. You're not Kirk, your the bit player that gets zapped in the first five minutes.

What the hell is the bit player? Are we back to Star Trek or still on football?

[Cowell]

I have to say I would be REALLY surprised if Gibbs retired. I think he will finish out his contract. After his contract is honored I think he is going to go.

[sportscurmudgeon]

MTRedskinsFan:

You say that Joe Gibbs passes your first criterion for being a head coach because he loves football more than himself.

1. How do you know that?

2. If that's true, how come he left football for NASCAR for about a decade?


My point was that there is no real motivation for him to "step down" and leave approximately $5M on the table. He has the job set up for him in such a way that it is hardly the most difficult one in the area - and the money ain't bad.

Oh, and he still has time to "oversee" his NASCAR enterprise too.

[GTripp0012]

Redskin QB DVOA in the Gibbs era:

2007 Campbell-15.9% Rank: 18
2006 Brunell-13.1% Rank: 12
2005 Brunell-10.1% Rank: 15
2004 Ramsey- (-)12.4% Rank: 30

Seems like there is a correlation between the longer a guy plays for Gibbs, and his statsitical output. Of course, I'm sure there's a postitive correlation between playing in the league longer and improving, so I'm not sure how much we can tell from this. Campbell is having the best year for a Redskin QB in the Gibbs era.

Anyway, good post Daseal, it looks like you thought through your opinion and your case is significantly stronger. I personally think the team reacts better to most in terms of adversity, but on that point I'm cool with agreeing to disagree.

[htownskinfan]

I have not been happy with gibbs this 2nd go round,the way the team panics in pressure situations and the terrible clock management{which is inexcusable for a hof coach} are just one of the many reasons,even giants fans are calling for gibbs to retire,
New York Giants Message Boards - Another good player gone...

"The skins are getting older, not younger. They needed Mix more than we did for this reason. But the problem with the Skins is not it's team so much as it is their HC. As much respect as I have for Gibbs, he's a corpse and should retire. He has about as much life as is needed to drain that team of what energy they have left. I know this post is about Mix, but at the same time, I don't think the Skins will have a winning club until Gibbs retires. "

and i think the general consensus around the country is the same thing,having said all that I still love gibbs and think he deserves to finish out his contract,the seasons not over and maybe the old dog can learn some new tricks

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I have not been happy with gibbs this 2nd go round,the way the team panics in pressure situations and the terrible clock management{which is inexcusable for a hof coach} are just one of the many reasons,even giants fans are calling for gibbs to retire,
New York Giants Message Boards - Another good player gone...

"The skins are getting older, not younger. They needed Mix more than we did for this reason. But the problem with the Skins is not it's team so much as it is their HC. As much respect as I have for Gibbs, he's a corpse and should retire. He has about as much life as is needed to drain that team of what energy they have left. I know this post is about Mix, but at the same time, I don't think the Skins will have a winning club until Gibbs retires. "

and i think the general consensus around the country is the same thing,having said all that I still love gibbs and think he deserves to finish out his contract,the seasons not over and maybe the old dog can learn some new tricks

Oh, well since the Giants fans think he should retire, that changes everything.* BTW, everybody, everywhere is getting older and not younger.

*sarcasm

[Luxorreb]

I remember the evening I heard Gibbs was coming back. I still think of it as the 2nd coming. Gibbs has brought stability, work ethic, hope and a different breed of Redskins back to Ashburn. We have players that care, work hard and fight til there's no more fighting. I know that Gibbs will be back and I believe that he will produce before he leaves us for dead once again.... God Bless!

[railcon56]

I want to see at least ONE more year with things just as they are... Gibbs is opening the Offense up moe every week.... With Campbell having another year under his belt.... hopefully next year ALOT less injuries ...and we could be unstoppable..... And Yes I love KOOL-AID ...the pre-sweetened stuff...extra sugar

[MTRedskinsFan]

After this season I would be very surprised if Gibbs stays on as HC. As far as fanbase, network coverage, and let's not forget about winning, he is a huge LIABILITY to this organization. Nobody wants to see a HOF coach stand clueless on the sidelines week to week as his reputation sinks lower and lower.

But this is not a matter of Snyder firing Gibbs, he will "retire" the day after the season ends, we just won't know whether it was his decision. Honest to God, my high school football coach had us better prepared/organized week to week. I keep asking the question to those who live in the DC area: does anyone check to see whether Gibbs is actually there w/ the offense throughout the week? For that matter, can anyone attest to the offense practicing every week?

[BrunellMVP?]

while i'm not the biggest (current gibbs supporter), he can't leave. We are too close...he's drafted well, and he's putting together a team that will be VERY good, next season..one more great draft (and we have all our picks).

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

while i'm not the biggest (current gibbs supporter), he can't leave. We are too close...he's drafted well, and he's putting together a team that will be VERY good, next season..one more great draft (and we have all our picks).

But it really doesn't matter does it? Suppose he had won four Super Bowls in five years here. All people will say is why didn't he win it that fifth year. There is absolutely nothing he can do to satisfy the fans. That much seems obvious by now. He could for just about any other fan base, but not ours.

[chrisl4064]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But it really doesn't matter does it? Suppose he had won four Super Bowls in five years here. All people will say is why didn't he win it that fifth year. There is absolutely nothing he can do to satisfy the fans. That much seems obvious by now. He could for just about any other fan base, but not ours.

whaaaat?! not true at all. I think the problem here is that those superbowls were a while ago, not even within the last decade. we had fallen into a rut with al these different coaches and quarterbacks and this and that and then all of a sudden Snyder brings in ol Joe. The hype was beyond belief, everyone in the DC area thought we were going back to our winning days.... well its been years later and we look like shit, still. We are still struggling just like we had right after he left. I am very greatful that this team has the history on its side, if not our fan base and this city might not even have a football team. The Redskins are the only team in DC that fans are really passionate about imo. But call it how you see it, and i dont see it getting any better. Gibbs will finish out his tenure here in style and next year i think we should be playoff contenders. I dont give Joe a break because of his history, and neither should anyone else. Now is now, thats what i think our fans need to understand.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by chrisl4064

whaaaat?! not true at all. I think the problem here is that those superbowls were a while ago, not even within the last decade. we had fallen into a rut with al these different coaches and quarterbacks and this and that and then all of a sudden Snyder brings in ol Joe. The hype was beyond belief, everyone in the DC area thought we were going back to our winning days.... well its been years later and we look like shit, still. We are still struggling just like we had right after he left. I am very greatful that this team has the history on its side, if not our fan base and this city might not even have a football team. The Redskins are the only team in DC that fans are really passionate about imo. But call it how you see it, and i dont see it getting any better. Gibbs will finish out his tenure here in style and next year i think we should be playoff contenders. I dont give Joe a break because of his history, and neither should anyone else. Now is now, thats what i think our fans need to understand.

Look like shit is an exaggeration in my opinion. But that's besides the point. What sort of threads do you think we would have seen today had we won today "Wow Reche is the man" "Campbell Has Arrived" "Gregg Williams is a Genius" etc.

There wouldn't have been any "Great Call by Gibbs" "Halftime Speech by Gibbs Fired Up Players" etc. I could be wrong, but I rarely if ever see any praise (for lack of a better word) for Gibbs after we win. I want him to stay and I think he will, but at the same time I want him to look out for himself. He deserves to be happy however he can, he owes us nothing more than what he has already given us in my opinion.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Anyone who doesn't understand why so many of us follow Gibbs with such devotion needs to rent DVDs of Gibbs' first tenure in D.C. Without Gibbs, the Washington Redskins have ZERO Lombardi trophies. Without Gibbs, the Washington Redskins don't have "the glory years" to talk about. Without Gibbs, there is no "we want Dallas" chant at RFK. Without Gibbs, we are not a storied franchise.

If you don't feel the same you are likely still in high school and are too young to remember the Gibbs I era and/or you are a cold-hearted "what have you done for me lately" prick. Sorry, I'm not singling anyone out. I'm just expressing how I feel.