Gibbs leaving? Not a chance

[Daseal]

If we don't make the playoffs he'll come back to fulfill his contract. Do you think he wants another coach to get the credit for what he's built? Just ask Parcells, I'm sure behind that smile of his, he's wishing he didn't retire and having Phillips, Jones and Garrett getting the credit for what he built.

Do you honestly believe that Dallas would be 9-1 with Parcells? I certainly don't. Garrett has that offense rolling, Phillips has that defense playing great pressure defense and able to completely mask a hurting secondary. The Cowboys would be mediocre with Parcells at the head of the ship.

The NFL is a PASSING LEAGUE now. Offenses that take chances and throw the rock are rewarded. Parcells would keep the offense cooped up. I know the Joe Gibbs crowd won't agree, but I'm about done with Joe. I would have been fine if he stepped away last year, this is his 4th year and he still has a losing record in his second term. If anything we should see Parcells as an example that the old guard is and should be on its way out.

Not a single person on this board would be defending the coach if his last name wasn't Gibbs. I totally respect and thank Gibbs for what he did in his first term. It's amazing and he certainly demands all the credit he got then. Why can't fans of this team step back and see that this team isn't winning under Gibbs, and it's tough to make a case that the team has even improved from year to year.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Do you honestly believe that Dallas would be 9-1 with Parcells? I certainly don't. Garrett has that offense rolling, Phillips has that defense playing great pressure defense and able to completely mask a hurting secondary. The Cowboys would be mediocre with Parcells at the head of the ship.

The NFL is a PASSING LEAGUE now. Offenses that take chances and throw the rock are rewarded. Parcells would keep the offense cooped up. I know the Joe Gibbs crowd won't agree, but I'm about done with Joe. I would have been fine if he stepped away last year, this is his 4th year and he still has a losing record in his second term. If anything we should see Parcells as an example that the old guard is and should be on its way out.

Why do people say things Like "I'm about done with Joe" or "I've had it with Joe". Are you going to switch teams if they don't hire a new coach? Other than that possibility, which could hardly be characterized as a tragedy, it doesn't really matter what you want.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I would have been fine if he stepped away last year, this is his 4th year and he still has a losing record in his second term. If anything we should see Parcells as an example that the old guard is and should be on its way out.

First off, the season is not over yet, so you can't judge Gibbs on his 4th year. Second, show me any coach with a QB with 1 year under his belt that has been a winner? Brady& Rothlisberger are the only ones I can think off. Young, The Mannings, Lineart, Cluter, Smith, etc. what did they do with one year under belt? Did they go to the playoffs or SB? PATIENCE will pay off, watch Campbell this weekend and the rest of the year, then you can judge.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Do you honestly believe that Dallas would be 9-1 with Parcells? I certainly don't. Garrett has that offense rolling, Phillips has that defense playing great pressure defense and able to completely mask a hurting secondary. The Cowboys would be mediocre with Parcells at the head of the ship.

The NFL is a PASSING LEAGUE now. Offenses that take chances and throw the rock are rewarded. Parcells would keep the offense cooped up. I know the Joe Gibbs crowd won't agree, but I'm about done with Joe. I would have been fine if he stepped away last year, this is his 4th year and he still has a losing record in his second term. If anything we should see Parcells as an example that the old guard is and should be on its way out.

Not a single person on this board would be defending the coach if his last name wasn't Gibbs. I totally respect and thank Gibbs for what he did in his first term. It's amazing and he certainly demands all the credit he got then. Why can't fans of this team step back and see that this team isn't winning under Gibbs, and it's tough to make a case that the team has even improved from year to year.

I agree with some of what you are saying here, Daseal, and you bring up some good points, but it's possibly your best one that you yourself should heed.

Why can't fans of this team step back and see that this team isn't winning under Gibbs

It takes no effort to look at records and see that Gibbs hasn't been as successful as one would have liked to been up until this point. I ask you to step back and take a look at all the positives that Gibbs has brought since he's been here. Mostly in the players. From the vets he brought in to the draft classes he has had, look at the foundation of this team that can be attributed to his scouting abilities.

Now try to match that up with what the rest of us are seeing. If you just assume that you are smarter than the rest of us and that you can see things about Joe Gibbs' struggles that the rest of us cannot because we are all blind optimists who don't understand successes and failures...then I doubt either side is going to have a good discussion from debating these points.

Step back, and re-evaluate.