So, is there freedom of speech here or what?

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yawn.

Are you done yet?

No Matt, Im not. You can wipe your chin from the Kool Aid, and YAWN all ya want, but the fact of the matter is that you and all the Kool Aid Drinkers have been 100% wrong. You supported an old man with old coaching methods refusing to criticize him at any point in time. Now its over and this team is left in the shitter, so you'll just blow off any criticizms, and jump back on the Snyder approval bandwagon, agreeing with each and every move he makes. God forbid someone challenges your ideas and then proves them wrong.

[MTRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

No Matt, Im not. You can wipe your chin from the Kool Aid, and YAWN all ya want, but the fact of the matter is that you and all the Kool Aid Drinkers have been 100% wrong. You supported an old man with old coaching methods refusing to criticize him at any point in time. Now its over and this team is left in the shitter, so you'll just blow off any criticizms, and jump back on the Snyder approval bandwagon, agreeing with each and every move he makes. God forbid someone challenges your ideas and then proves them wrong.

The freedom of speech thing is not the issue here IMO, so I sincerely think you're barking up the wrong tree. Take a minute and look at the members pages within the site and you'll find something very odd. The vast, vast majority of members have posted just a couple of times and are never seen or heard from again. What does that tell you? The opinion's expressed here are very limited. Most Skins fans visit, think this will be fun and join up, but obviously get discouraged or just plain uninterested in the content.

The result is what we see day to day: a small handful of contributors (including the mods) that totally dominate the style and direction of every thread, every time, period. Most of them are Gibbs supporters, and some of them actually seem like bigger Gibbs' fans than Skins' fans. But that doesn't make it a bad site or a useless one. It just is what it is.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

The freedom of speech thing is not the issue here IMO, so I sincerely think you're barking up the wrong tree. Take a minute and look at the members pages within the site and you'll find something very odd. The vast, vast majority of members have posted just a couple of times and are never seen or heard from again. What does that tell you? The opinion's expressed here are very limited. Most Skins fans visit, think this will be fun and join up, but obviously get discouraged or just plain uninterested in the content.

The result is what we see day to day: a small handful of contributors (including the mods) that totally dominate the style and direction of every thread, every time, period. Most of them are Gibbs supporters, and some of them actually seem like bigger Gibbs' fans than Skins' fans. But that doesn't make it a bad site or a useless one. It just is what it is.

Take a look around any message board and you'll find that is the norm. More often than not many people choose to read rather than interact.

Opinions here are not suppressed and the direction of the conversations are not controlled in any manner. To suggest otherwise is just ignorant.

[MTRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Take a look around any message board and you'll find that is the norm. More often than not many people choose to read rather than interact.

Opinions here are not suppressed and the direction of the conversations are not controlled in any manner. To suggest otherwise is just ignorant.

Nothing was suggested... and somehow that caused you to start hurling insults about ignorance?

Judging by your exteme defensiveness it seems you must believe you've done something wrong or unjust, expecially in light of the fact that nothing like that was suggested.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Nothing was suggested... and somehow that caused you to start hurling insults about ignorance?

Judging by your exteme defensiveness it seems you must believe you've done something wrong or unjust, expecially in light of the fact that nothing like that was suggested.

Nothing was suggested??

You only "suggested" that we have limited opinions here and that "a small handful of contributors (including the mods) that totally dominate the style and direction of every thread, every time, period."

Sorry but that's just wrong, ignorant and frankly insulting.

[MTRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Nothing was suggested??

You only "suggested" that we have limited opinions here and that "a small handful of contributors (including the mods) that totally dominate the style and direction of every thread, every time, period."

Sorry but that's just wrong, ignorant and frankly insulting.

Once again the insults come hurling in. I've been given warnings about insults (which weren't even insults) when my opinion differed from the mods but somehow it's totally fine for all mods to hurl insults. And that goes right back to my original point: the pool of contributors here is very limited because of that kind of thing exactly AND as logic would follow the content also becomes very limited. Again, I did not say it made the site bad or useless, I simply said that it is what it is.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Once again the insults come hurling in. I've been given warnings about insults (which weren't even insults) when my opinion differed from the mods but somehow it's totally fine for all mods to hurl insults. And that goes right back to my original point: the pool of contributors here is very limited because of that kind of thing exactly AND as logic would follow the content also becomes very limited. Again, I did not say it made the site bad or useless, I simply said that it is what it is.

How have I hurled insults??

If the word "ignorant" is insulting to you then you are really touchy.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Once again the insults come hurling in. I've been given warnings about insults (which weren't even insults) when my opinion differed from the mods but somehow it's totally fine for all mods to hurl insults. And that goes right back to my original point: the pool of contributors here is very limited because of that kind of thing exactly AND as logic would follow the content also becomes very limited. Again, I did not say it made the site bad or useless, I simply said that it is what it is.

By the way you were given an warning for inappropriate language, not from insulting someone.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Take a look around any message board and you'll find that is the norm. More often than not many people choose to read rather than interact.

Opinions here are not suppressed and the direction of the conversations are not controlled in any manner. To suggest otherwise is just ignorant.

I agree. I think threads here are supervised to prevent things like the Amnesty thread from happening. Cause come on, it'd be different if the guy was joking and everyone knew he was joking. But I think the entire thread was just a way to patronize everyone who supports Gibbs. I don't even entirely support Gibbs and I thought it was patronizing. If you wanna be taken seriously that wasn't the right way to go about it.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

No Matt, Im not. You can wipe your chin from the Kool Aid, and YAWN all ya want, but the fact of the matter is that you and all the Kool Aid Drinkers have been 100% wrong. You supported an old man with old coaching methods refusing to criticize him at any point in time. Now its over and this team is left in the shitter, so you'll just blow off any criticizms, and jump back on the Snyder approval bandwagon, agreeing with each and every move he makes. God forbid someone challenges your ideas and then proves them wrong.

I just flew home and boy are my arms tired.

Seriously though, I locked the thread because it was turning into a bunch of name calling all around. The thread was headed nowhere and I decided to put a stop to it before it got out of control. We know what your intent essentially was ("to patronize" as DynamiteRave pointed out). And we all know that had we won the game and there was a thread offering "Amnesty" to people like you, then you'd be pissing all over the thread.

Now for the last time, I don't think everything is perfect with the team or with Gibbs. There is a lot the team and Gibbs has to improve on. No one is blind to that. But if you're done with the team, then quite frankly you should be done with the site.

And I'm changing my sig.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I just flew home and boy are my arms tired.

Seriously though, I locked the thread because it was turning into a bunch of name calling all around. The thread was headed nowhere and I decided to put a stop to it before it got out of control. We know what your intent essentially was ("to patronize" as DynamiteRave pointed out). And we all know that had we won the game and there was a thread offering "Amnesty" to people like you, then you'd be pissing all over the thread.

Now for the last time, I don't think everything is perfect with the team or with Gibbs. There is a lot the team and Gibbs has to improve on. No one is blind to that. But if you're done with the team, then quite frankly you should be done with the site.

And I'm changing my sig.

Haha thanks for the Sig smooty. I just try to stay as neutral as possible. I agree with everyone depending on the day and how I feel. I agree with the kool-aid kids sometimes and I agree with the "Haters". But no matter who I agree with, I never ever hop off the bandwagon. Sure there are things I don't like but. *Shrugs* Nothing I can do about it. No point in pissing on people for not agreeing to what you agree to. That's what seems to be happening on this board lately.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Haha thanks for the Sig smooty. I just try to stay as neutral as possible. I agree with everyone depending on the day and how I feel. I agree with the kool-aid kids sometimes and I agree with the "Haters". But no matter who I agree with, I never ever hop off the bandwagon. Sure there are things I don't like but. *Shrugs* Nothing I can do about it. No point in pissing on people for not agreeing to what you agree to. That's what seems to be happening on this board lately.

The site needs more people like you. I said it last year and I'll say it again this year.

[LMsexyAO]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

No Matt, Im not. You can wipe your chin from the Kool Aid, and YAWN all ya want, but the fact of the matter is that you and all the Kool Aid Drinkers have been 100% wrong. You supported an old man with old coaching methods refusing to criticize him at any point in time. Now its over and this team is left in the shitter, so you'll just blow off any criticizms, and jump back on the Snyder approval bandwagon, agreeing with each and every move he makes. God forbid someone challenges your ideas and then proves them wrong.

You're a f------ retard just do everyone a favor and get the f---- off this site. You do nothing but piss and whine and assume you're the smartest f---- alive.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by LMsexyAO

You're a fucking retard just do everyone a favor and get the fuck off this site. You do nothing but piss and whine and assume you're the smartest fucker alive.

Personally I think you're absolutely on point with your post. However, as a moderator I have to warn you to watch the language and insults.