Jason Whitlock column on Taylor

[joethiesmanfan]

The state of society today. You have to be rich in America to make a difference on anything. Step one is get rich. Step two, make changes. The Kennedy's made their money illegally shipping liquor during prohibition. Son becomes president. That is how this country works. Wanna change something, you have got to be rich. You have to have resources.

[joethiesmanfan]

But bleed my question to you is how should people act? Like bleed? What images do you portray? Is that even important? To me to each his own I have enough trouble being me.

[BleedBurgundy]

See I think that "to each his own" is what's wrong here. No one, and I mean NO ONE, wants to be held accountable anymore. People need to start to understand that our actions as individuals effect us as a whole. No, I'm not arbiter of what is right and wrong but there have to be standards to which we are held. I respect your view point, I just don't agree with it. Part of my reason for discussing this issue so much today is that I have had some in-person conversations on this subject with friends of mine and no one has any answers, just defense mechanisms. It seems like white people like me are afraid to talk about it because they think they'll be branded as racist or not in-touch or whatever. I guess I'm just frustrated with this country because I feel like we're headed for some really bad times and no one's going to stop it from happening.

[joethiesmanfan]

Peace man. Next time something happens Whitlock will say hiphop mentality. Wow can I live? I don't make my living dragging Sean Taylor's name through the mud. Sean Taylor was guy to look up to. A modern day John Wayne.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Peace man. Next time something happens Whitlock will say hiphop mentality. Wow can I live? I don't make my living dragging Sean Taylor's name through the mud. Sean Taylor was guy to look up to. A modern day John Wayne.

Neither do I. We're all pissed off because ST was a great guy and was trying to improve his life, which may have led to his death. It's fucked up.

[joethiesmanfan]

I agree no one is held accountable anymore. Jails are full I think alot of people are being held accountable. The thugs are being held accountable for everything that is wrong. I think that is another point. Blame everything on HipHop, but Whitlock is not accountable for anything? He playing sides in the blame game and tarnishing Sean's memory. He ashamed of the hood. I'm glad Hip Hop reminds the world something is wrong here. This is what happens. Post appocalyptic culture of mine. Peace. Holla later bled.

[BleedBurgundy]

Later. Good talking to you.

[joethiesmanfan]

I think Sean was a leader by example which I love. In order to lead people they have to respect you. No one is gonna follow a sissy. Except another sissy. Sean was a leader Whitlock is not. The black community wants strong leaders. That is who we gonna follow. Look at who the kids look up to tough mofos, and that is how it is whitlock. The kids look up to and who the women lookup, strong black men. I admit someyoung punks wanna be thugs make everybody look bad. Stop trying to pencil whip Sean Whitlock.

[warriorzpath]

Everyone should just be held accountable for their own actions as individuals. And like someone has already posted - just lead by example. If you see a problem, take a proactive approach and do something, something little, anything - just as long as you are doing something.

About whitlock - he is being praised for sparking this discussion and I think Riggins even called him an activist (I am a fan of Riggins, by the way). No way is this guy an activist. Activists do spark discussions - I do not disagree with that - but I perceive activists sparking a cause in a positive direction not in complaints and negativity. Also, activists take a stand on an issue and help guide everyone in the right direction (especially by leading by example in his own actions).

Nothing about his article is inspiring. I think I heard a caller on the riggins show say that whitlock just causes more contention and conflict- I have to agree.

[BleedBurgundy]

Yeah, CrazyHorse, I think SS's comment was direct at me for responding to the political element of your post. Why are you so defensive? Everybody here has their own take and no one is attacking you.

[dgack]

Wow, this thread now sounds like a presidential debate. Lots of quote marks, mischaracterization, and accusations.

Good thing we weren't discussing, you know, the death of a beloved player, or anything.