ST Murder Investigation Thread

[courtney07]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

For me, it all comes back to the safe. If it wasn't a burglary, why try to get into the safe during the first break-in?

Perhaps there was something in there that someone wanted.. still doesn't have to be a burglar to make that true. And do they know for 100% sure that someone tried to break into the safe? Because that's one thing that hasn't been mentioned as much within articles that I've read.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

For me, it all comes back to the safe. If it wasn't a burglary, why try to get into the safe during the first break-in?

Somebody tried to get into the safe? I didn't know that. Are you certain, or is it speculation?

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Somebody tried to get into the safe? I didn't know that. Are you certain, or is it speculation?

I'm pretty sure I saw it in one of the hundreds of articles I've read (like we all have) since Monday. I tried to find a reference, but entering "safe" does not return many good hits as Taylor was a safety.

[courtney07]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Somebody tried to get into the safe? I didn't know that. Are you certain, or is it speculation?

it was in a couple articles.
Here's one quote for you:
"According to our Herald reporters and police records, someone also broke into Taylor's house between 7 p.m. on Saturday, Nov. 17 and midnight Sunday Nov. 18, by prying open a front window. No one was home at the time. The burglar entered several rooms in the house, rifled through drawers, and a safe in Taylor's bedroom. The police report says it was ''unknown'' whether anything was taken. In that incident, someone left a kitchen knife on a bed in Taylor's house, according to the police report."

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by courtney07

it was in a couple articles.
Here's one quote for you:
"According to our Herald reporters and police records, someone also broke into Taylor's house between 7 p.m. on Saturday, Nov. 17 and midnight Sunday Nov. 18, by prying open a front window. No one was home at the time. The burglar entered several rooms in the house, rifled through drawers, and a safe in Taylor's bedroom. The police report says it was ''unknown'' whether anything was taken. In that incident, someone left a kitchen knife on a bed in Taylor's house, according to the police report."

That says that they went through his safe which would tell me that it was open and empty or had nothing of any value.

[Bill B]

I don't think this was a random burglary because if you broke into houses with the intent of just stealing goods it just doesn't make sense that you target the same house twice in the matter of 8 days. Also a common thief is not going to be that sloppy and leave a knife on the pillow of a bed - that right there spells intent to harm.

[cpayne5]

If it was a hit, he was under surveillance. I read where upon arriving Saturday, he took a 30 mile ride on his bicycle. The hit man would have known this and had plenty of opportunities for a drive-by. Why do it in a way that is so much riskier (hopping a fence in plain sight, out of your getaway car, breaking into a house w/ a security system, a possibly armed target, etc etc.

Who knows, though. Only the killer, the ones who hired the killer, or the ones the killer has bragged to at this point.

My whole deal is that with the info we have right now, there are 2 plausible scenarios; neither of which should be labeled as being more accurate than the other.

[courtney07]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

If it was a hit, he was under surveillance. I read where upon arriving Saturday, he took a 30 mile ride on his bicycle. The hit man would have known this and had plenty of opportunities for a drive-by. Why do it in a way that is so much riskier (hopping a fence in plain sight, out of your getaway car, breaking into a house w/ a security system, a possibly armed target, etc etc.

Who knows, though. Only the killer, the ones who hired the killer, or the ones the killer has bragged to at this point.

My whole deal is that with the info we have right now, there are 2 plausible scenarios; neither of which should be labeled as being more accurate than the other.

Don't forget the other scenario that's been circulating.. that the shooter had intention for Sean, but not intentions to kill.. just to injure him beyond repair for ever playing football again.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by courtney07

Don't forget the other scenario that's been circulating.. that the shooter had intention for Sean, but not intentions to kill.. just to injure him beyond repair for ever playing football again.

Yes, nothing should be ruled out.

*edit - Quite possibly the worst grammar I've ever used in a post.

[courtney07]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Yes, nothing should not be ruled out.

And no matter what the true cause, the number one thing to pray for is that the man behind the gun is caught.

[Stacks42]

There is way too much speculation going on at this point. Good thing O.J. was in jail for this cause im sure his name would have been thrown into the mix (jk). The fact is someone broke into the house two sundays in a row, they probably didint find what they were looking for the first time (either sean or property), so they went back. The fact that he was at the house was pretty random (he was supposed to be in DC). Im sure that whomever did this will be dealt with one way or the other, and we probably wont know what happened.

[birdz4gibbs]

i,m no dick tracy but there,s more to it than just breaking in ...
so far the knife on the bed would let me on to beleive they would be back from 8 days previously. somebody knows something and they aint talking...for me i hope it comes to the surface with those who are involved and i,m sure it was more than one involved and i wouldn,t put it past the GF either.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

CNN is reporting that "Lt. Nancy Perez with the Miami-Dade Police Department said investigators were looking for an "unknown suspect." What the hell does that mean? Does that mean that they are looking for evidence which will lead them to identify and locate a person? Or does it mean that they have already identified someone, whose identity has not been revealed to the press?

This same spokeswoman gave misleading statements the other day. Aren't spokespersons supposed to be articulate?

BTW, I personally don't like the speculation about Taylor's wife. This poor woman lost her fiance and the father of her child, yet people are willing to pin the blame on her without any real support?

[courtney07]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

CNN is reporting that "Lt. Nancy Perez with the Miami-Dade Police Department said investigators were looking for an "unknown suspect." What the hell does that mean? Does that mean that they are looking for evidence which will lead them to identify and locate a person? Or does it mean that they have already identified someone, whose identity has not been revealed to the press?

This same spokeswoman gave misleading statements the other day. Aren't spokespersons supposed to be articulate?

BTW, I personally don't like the speculation about Taylor's wife. This poor woman lost her fiance and the father of her child, yet people are willing to pin the blame on her without any real support?

I agree; there's a chance that yes she could have been involved, but that's a very HUGE speculation and people should keep hush about things like that out of respect for the Taylor family in their time of mourning.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

CNN is reporting that "Lt. Nancy Perez with the Miami-Dade Police Department said investigators were looking for an "unknown suspect." What the hell does that mean? Does that mean that they are looking for evidence which will lead them to identify and locate a person? Or does it mean that they have already identified someone, whose identity has not been revealed to the press?

This same spokeswoman gave misleading statements the other day. Aren't spokespersons supposed to be articulate?

BTW, I personally don't like the speculation about Taylor's wife. This poor woman lost her fiance and the father of her child, yet people are willing to pin the blame on her without any real support?

I'm all for the fact that the police are not giving into the preasure of the press and giving out any of the info they may have. We just had an arrest here in my area where the police kept saying that they had no info and did not have any clues to who the killer was in this case. The very next day they arrested the killer and explained that they held th info from the public so they did not tip off the suspect. So its very hard to tell what the police even have at this time.