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Old 11-30-2007, 01:48 PM   #1
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So when can we change the stock narrative from "young black man with troubled past is killed and no one is surprised" to "a young man who was doing everything right was killed trying to protect his family from criminals who wanted some money." When do we get an apology from all the writers who said they were not surprised at all and they just knew this would happen? I suspect we don't, but if this story continues to play out as it currently is going then I think every last one of them owes Sean Taylor AT LEAST that.
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So when can we change the stock narrative from "young black man with troubled past is killed and no one is surprised" to "a young man who was doing everything right was killed trying to protect his family from criminals who wanted some money." When do we get an apology from all the writers who said they were not surprised at all and they just knew this would happen? I suspect we don't, but if this story continues to play out as it currently is going then I think every last one of them owes Sean Taylor AT LEAST that.
That's a real good question. I could regain SOME of my respect for certain talking heads if they would at least man up and admit that this isn't a case of ST's past coming back at him.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:57 PM   #3
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That's a real good question. I could regain SOME of my respect for certain talking heads if they would at least man up and admit that this isn't a case of ST's past coming back at him.
You know if this for reason turns out to be random, I wonder exactly will Mike Wilbon say then.
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You know if this for reason turns out to be random, I wonder exactly will Mike Wilbon say then.
Probably nothing. I would hope for more... but... I don't think it will happen unless he is publicly called out on it.
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I so hope that ultimately those responsible are NOT from ST's past and people will honor his time here with us instead of continually dredging up his previous relationships.
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I tell you one thing that has absolutely been eating me up since Taylor passed away, this whole thing that he's "turning his life around" or "getting on track" or "getting his life together." While that may have been true, you rarely heard that he's simply maturing into an adult.

I can't remember which thread it was, but 70Chip really summed up a lot of misperceptions about Sean Taylor better than anyone I've seen or heard.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:19 PM   #7
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Yeah, it's pretty shady how this man's memory was treated. Not so much for us, since I think we pretty much knew all of that to be B.S. but for a lot of people who didn't know much about ST, they might think some thug got shot because he was a thug, nothing more. And that is truly a shame.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:08 PM   #8
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According to the Miami Hearld it appears that he was targeted but not because of the reasons that Cowtud and Wilbonehead seem to think. He was targeted because he had money and nobody expected him to be home seven hours after a game. Maybe the headlines will stop refering to his race (as if that ever made a difference) and focused on his age and who he was. Call me an ignorant white guy, but why is black on black crime worse than any other murder?
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According to the Miami Hearld it appears that he was targeted but not because of the reasons that Cowtud and Wilbonehead seem to think. He was targeted because he had money and nobody expected him to be home seven hours after a game. Maybe the headlines will stop refering to his race (as if that ever made a difference) and focused on his age and who he was. Call me an ignorant white guy, but why is black on black crime worse than any other murder?
Cowturd offered a reasonable account for his speculation the other day. He basically said that people can reasonably speculate as to why Sean was murdered and that it was reasonable to theorize that Sean was murdered by someone he knew from his past. He admitted that he could be wrong, but bragged about his track record of being right. Hopefully these three detainees are the killers, the detainees do not know Sean, and Cowturd will eat crow.

I can't wait for members of the media who were so convinced Sean's past killed him to eat crow. You'd think that prominent members of the press would not rush to judgment. Speculation is fine provided it is reasonable and is labeled speculation.....it's another matter when the speculation is unreasonable and/or presented as virtual fact.
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Cowturd offered a reasonable account for his speculation the other day. He basically said that people can reasonably speculate as to why Sean was murdered and that it was reasonable to theorize that Sean was murdered by someone he knew from his past. He admitted that he could be wrong, but bragged about his track record of being right. Hopefully these three detainees are the killers, the detainees do not know Sean, and Cowturd will eat crow.

I can't wait for members of the media who were so convinced Sean's past killed him to eat crow. You'd think that prominent members of the press would not rush to judgment. Speculation is fine provided it is reasonable and is labeled speculation.....it's another matter when the speculation is unreasonable and/or presented as virtual fact.
Agreed, i was trying to find the words to say what you just did.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:18 PM   #11
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I have always liked Wilbon. I didn't really agree too much w/ his article. On the surface though it would seem reasonable to suspect that it was not random, and was premeditated. Unfortunately, some facts got twisted around to make it seem like he was a target or some sort of payback.

I listed to everyones opinion and although most were cordial they rang w/ an underlying tone of his past catching up w/ him. Everyone jumped to this conclusion. If the most recent news is correct, I just hope everyone who jumped to this conclusion is aware of their error.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:50 PM   #12
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thats all fine and good, but his close friends and certainly his family have already been unjustly subjected to that bs at a devastating time. Can you imagine listening to the news of your son's death and hearing so many people in the media passing judgement on him based on pure speculation? Especially if he died defending his goddamn family...

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Old 11-30-2007, 04:31 PM   #13
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I think the mother f ' er should get the death penaty. It should be done on the fifty yard line at either Fed Ex or the Orange Bowl In front of a sold out crowd. Then bury the bastard face down so he can see were he is going---straight to hell.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:30 PM   #14
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New tidbit reported by the Miami-Herald and on JLC's blog. At least one of the men being questioned was at the house for a birthday party. So wonder if they are talking to these guys about who they talked to about the house or if they are genuine suspects. Guess we'll learn more as time goes on.

3 detained, 2 sought in Taylor homicide - 11/30/2007 - MiamiHerald.com
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:34 PM   #15
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For the purposes of keeping things from being too confusing. I'm going to lock this thread and move the discussion over here, where earlier today we started discussing the latest developments.

http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locke...-look-1-a.html

Good thread we had here, just want to make sure information doesn't get lost in the shuffle.
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