Who called the 2nd timeout?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GMScud

The stretch run in 2005 was a lot of fun, but the fact remains that we started 5-6 and needed lightning in a bottle to make the playoffs. Yes we made it, but our offense had all the issues it still does today.

The frustrating thing is we've had the same problems year in and year out during Gibbs 2.0. Turnovers, clock mismanagement, big issues with fundamentals, allowing big plays on D, blowing leads in the 2nd half, etc, etc. I know we've had some bad luck with injuries, but when the all little things don't get any better week in and week out, year in and year out, it becomes maddening.

It definitely does become maddening. And Gibbs' mistake today was awful....a rookie mistake that no HoF coach should make. I pounded me fist on the bar and spilt beer when he called it. I told my girlfriend that I knew that rule from madden. A guy who is paid millions of dollars can't make that mistake.

I am still convinced that our struggles in Gibbs II, and for the past decade, stem from the lack of a quality QB. JC looks promising, but his turnovers at inopportune times have been fatal to our season. I am convinced that as JC gets more experience, he will play better football and so will our team. And our future success will have a lot less to do with coaching than JC getting experience and securing the ball better.

This season, the injuries just compound JC's inexperience. The right tackle ......gone. The right guard......gone. The #1 corner.....frequently banged up. The #2 corner......gone. Sean Taylor missed the past few weeks and teams exploited our inexperienced safeties. And now, Sean has passed away. That's the right side of the line and 3/4 of the secondary, not to mention injuries to guys like Griffin, Rabach, Smoot, Washington, Daniels, ARE, Moss, and less important guys like Thrash.

I know people say, "the injury excuse gets old." I don't accept that kind of statement. Either they are tired of the injuries but accept the reality that having a large numbers of injured players really hurt our team OR they don't accept that injuries of this order really affect our play.

[pg86]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

It definitely does become maddening. And Gibbs' mistake today was awful....a rookie mistake that no HoF coach should make. I pounded me fist on the bar and spilt beer when he called it. I told my girlfriend that I knew that rule from madden. A guy who is paid millions of dollars can't make that mistake.

I am still convinced that our struggles in Gibbs II, and for the past decade, stem from the lack of a quality QB. JC looks promising, but his turnovers at inopportune times have been fatal to our season. I am convinced that as JC gets more experience, he will play better football and so will our team. And our future success will have a lot less to do with coaching than JC getting experience and securing the ball better.

This season, the injuries just compound JC's inexperience. The right tackle ......gone. The right guard......gone. The #1 corner.....frequently banged up. The #2 corner......gone. Sean Taylor missed the past few weeks and teams exploited our inexperienced safeties. And now, Sean has passed away. That's the right side of the line and 3/4 of the secondary, not to mention injuries to guys like Griffin, Rabach, Smoot, Washington, Daniels, ARE, Moss, and less important guys like Thrash.

I know people say, "the injury excuse gets old." I don't accept that kind of statement. Either they are tired of the injuries but accept the reality that having a large numbers of injured players really hurt our team OR they don't accept that injuries of this order really affect our play.

WOah woah woah...I do that on madden and don't get penalized.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by pg86

WOah woah woah...I do that on madden and don't get penalized.

Unless you have a different version of Madden than I do, you can't. Try to call 2 consecutive timeouts. Amazingly, I didn't know of the rule until I played Madden. I was playing Madden, had called a timeout, then called the wrong play and tried to use my other timeout, Madden wouldn't let me, I was pissed, and looked up the rule.

As you may not know, I am a big Gibbs supporter, but that was a bad, bad call.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Unless you have a different version of Madden than I do, you can't. Try to call 2 consecutive timeouts. Amazingly, I didn't know of the rule until I played Madden. I was playing Madden, had called a timeout, then called the wrong play and tried to use my other timeout, Madden wouldn't let me, I was pissed, and looked up the rule.

As you may not know, I am a big Gibbs supporter, but that was a bad, bad call.

On a side note it's pretty funny that my use of the word "maddening" has sparked a Madden conversation.

[pg86]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Unless you have a different version of Madden than I do, you can't. Try to call 2 consecutive timeouts. Amazingly, I didn't know of the rule until I played Madden. I was playing Madden, had called a timeout, then called the wrong play and tried to use my other timeout, Madden wouldn't let me, I was pissed, and looked up the rule.

As you may not know, I am a big Gibbs supporter, but that was a bad, bad call.

Ok but the penalty.
Whats the penalty for it on madden? Or in the rule book?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by pg86

Ok but the penalty.
Whats the penalty for it on madden? Or in the rule book?

There is no penalty in Madden. I think it was added a few years ago by the competition committee in response to complaints about trying to ice the kicker "too much." Sorry, I don't have a link.

[Cowell]

Look, it is obviously a rule and I have known for a few years that you can't call 2 timeouts on one play. I don't really know where I stand on the rule, I do see the pros and cons. Either way though the refs made the right call and I don't know who took the timeout but they made a boneheaded move. End of story.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by pg86

Ok but the penalty.
Whats the penalty for it on madden? Or in the rule book?

There is no penalty in Madden, it won't even allow you to call consecutive time outs.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

There is no penalty in Madden, it won't even allow you to call consecutive time outs.

It's a new rule. Only been in effect for two years. To be clear, it was always illegal but up until two years all that would happen is the referee would say is no...and then the kicking team would line up for the field goal/extra point. It only recently became "unsportsmanlike conduct" for trying to ice the kicker like that.