If Not Joe, Then Who?

[70Chip]

I think that if Gibbs goes, then Williams should be the HC and he should be allowed to hire his own offensive coordinator. I believe that if Saunders is allowed to stay he will sabotage the team in order to eventually get the job himself. Whoever they hire should not be saddled with Saunders, IMO. Did I mention that I don't care for Al Saunders?

Maybe Charlie Weiss would be available? Notre Dame can't not fire him after they fired Willingham. They guy lost to Navy for God's sake. Of course,the polish is off Weiss a little considering what N.E. is doing now. They're setting records and their offensive coordinator looks like he rode to the stadium on his skateboard.

[Giantone]

Joe Gibbs ............he won you 3 super bowls and is in the HOF ,what more do you want?


Besides Cowher is going to the Giants

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Joe Gibbs ............he won you 3 super bowls and is in the HOF ,what more do you want?


Besides Cowher is going to the Giants

Exactly!! A smart person and he's not even a Redskins fan. Where's the loyalty for the man that made this team champions!! As far as I'm concerned Joe can coach till he decides to quit.

[BrudLee]

First, Joe must stay. I'm angry as hell at that unsportsmanlike call, and it was 100% his fault. But this team would have been worthless under nearly anyone else after this week, and that's gotta count for something.

Gregg Williams has shown the same kind of leadership. He is viewed as a leader by players on both sides of the ball (remember that Santana Moss went to Williams to explain his fumble weeks ago, not to Gibbs). This team has gone through events that should galvanize them, it's the wrong time to bring new faces to the fold.

[EternalEnigma21]

i gotta go with GW. He's been around here long enough do deserve the shot and has had the only part of the team that's been dominant. Our ST's has been consistantly good, though...

I do hope gibbs returns, but if he decides not to, I think bringing in an outsider will only set us back 2 years, in which case the same people calling for JG's head will be calling for the new coach's head.


I don't even know if cowher would take the job. we're in cap hell and don't have a history of longevity or tolerance with our coaches...

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I say someone from this site, since we seem to have so many geniuses who would never make a mistake during the draft or free agency, so many people are expert Madden players, etc.

In all seriousness, I want Gibbs back. If Gibbs decides to retire, don't expect a great 2008 season as new head coaches often struggle in their first season with a new team. And expect to see JC regress, or not progress, if we replace Saunders and force him to learn a new system.

If we had to get someone else, I'd probably go with Cowher since I like the guy, he likes smash-mouth football and great defenses, and he is a proven winner. That said, several teams will likely be after him and he supposedly wanted to stay out of football until 2009. He could be saying that he doesn't want to return to football in 2008 to gain leverage in contract negotiations, but who knows.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I say someone from this site, since we seem to have so many geniuses who would never make a mistake during the draft or free agency, so many people are expert Madden players, etc.

In all seriousness, I want Gibbs back. If Gibbs decides to retire, don't expect a great 2008 season as new head coaches often struggle in their first season with a new team. And expect to see JC regress, or not progress, if we replace Saunders and force him to learn a new system.

If we had to get someone else, I'd probably go with Cowher since I like the guy, he likes smash-mouth football and great defenses, and he is a proven winner. That said, several teams will likely be after him and he supposedly wanted to stay out of football until 2009. He could be saying that he doesn't want to return to football in 2008 to gain leverage in contract negotiations, but who knows.

Someone from this site was going to be a poll option, but that would have totally skewed the results.

You know what's funny about your compliments of Cowher, smash-mouth, great defense, proven winner....hmm, who does that sound like?

So if you (not you, but the collective you) complain about the current coach what will you say about Cowher?

Up until recently I would have said I'd love for it to be Grimm. I wish he'd been on our staff the past few years.

However, in recent days I think I've come to the conclusion that while I don't know how good a head coach he'll be Gregg Williams should be the next coach. I know he rubs a lot of people the wrong way at Redskins Park, but for the most part he at least has their respect. And most importantly, he has Gibbs' support.

And the team could benefit from continuity. People hate to hear it, but it's true...we are so close.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Someone from this site was going to be a poll option, but that would have totally skewed the results.

You know what's funny about your compliments of Cowher, smash-mouth, great defense, proven winner....hmm, who does that sound like?

So if you (not you, but the collective you) complain about the current coach what will you say about Cowher?

Up until recently I would have said I'd love for it to be Grimm. I wish he'd been on our staff the past few years.

However, in recent days I think I've come to the conclusion that while I don't know how good a head coach he'll be Gregg Williams should be the next coach. I know he rubs a lot of people the wrong way at Redskins Park, but for the most part he at least has their respect. And most importantly, he has Gibbs' support.

And the team could benefit from continuity. People hate to hear it, but it's true...we are so close.

I'm not sure about Grimm either. No head coaching experience, and he's spent a lot of his time with Cowher anyway, so he's molded in that style as well. So if we say Grimm, why not just say Cowher?

I agree to an extent with the continuity. I think if Gibbs does step down he will stay on as team prez, in which case I would be surprised if it wasn't G.Williams.

If Snyder goes after Cowher people may say, "here we go again, Danny looking for the big name, super expensive big splash." That said, I still think Cowher would do well.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I'm not sure about Grimm either. No head coaching experience, and he's spent a lot of his time with Cowher anyway, so he's molded in that style as well. So if we say Grimm, why not just say Cowher?

I agree to an extent with the continuity. I think if Gibbs does step down he will stay on as team prez, in which case I would be surprised if it wasn't G.Williams.

If Snyder goes after Cowher people may say, "here we go again, Danny looking for the big name, super expensive big splash." That said, I still think Cowher would do well.

Great points about Grimm.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You know what's funny about your compliments of Cowher, smash-mouth, great defense, proven winner....hmm, who does that sound like?

I noticed the irony when I wrote it. Pretty funny huh.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Up until recently I would have said I'd love for it to be Grimm. I wish he'd been on our staff the past few years.

I obviously have a lot of love for Grimm. But, I don't know what he's like as a coach. I've heard good things, but not enough to make me feel very confident in him. I haven't heard anything bad, but I haven't heard that much.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I say someone from this site, since we seem to have so many geniuses who would never make a mistake during the draft or free agency, so many people are expert Madden players, etc.

In all seriousness, I want Gibbs back. If Gibbs decides to retire, don't expect a great 2008 season as new head coaches often struggle in their first season with a new team. And expect to see JC regress, or not progress, if we replace Saunders and force him to learn a new system.

If we had to get someone else, I'd probably go with Cowher since I like the guy, he likes smash-mouth football and great defenses, and he is a proven winner. That said, several teams will likely be after him and he supposedly wanted to stay out of football until 2009. He could be saying that he doesn't want to return to football in 2008 to gain leverage in contract negotiations, but who knows.

I agree about JC, we need to keep Saunders.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I say someone from this site, since we seem to have so many geniuses who would never make a mistake during the draft or free agency, so many people are expert Madden players, etc.

In all seriousness, I want Gibbs back. If Gibbs decides to retire, don't expect a great 2008 season as new head coaches often struggle in their first season with a new team. And expect to see JC regress, or not progress, if we replace Saunders and force him to learn a new system.

If we had to get someone else, I'd probably go with Cowher since I like the guy, he likes smash-mouth football and great defenses, and he is a proven winner. That said, several teams will likely be after him and he supposedly wanted to stay out of football until 2009. He could be saying that he doesn't want to return to football in 2008 to gain leverage in contract negotiations, but who knows.

Good post SGG! All the coachs on this board, I bet Dan could get one cheap.....? lol

I'm 100% behind Joe finishing up his 5 year deal.

[squrrelco3]

Russ Grimm...most people that seem to know what they are talking about feel Grimm is ready, I think it would be nice to go for a brand new guy (coaching wise) with a new attitude and system. Wade Phillips has proven in Dallas that it is possible for a new coach to turn it around from one year to the next so long as you have the talent and I think the 'skins still have the talent...

[Beemnseven]

I can find problems with everyone you specifically mentioned.

With Cowher, we're getting a conservative, defensive oriented coach who won't be aggressive offensively. A problem that many have with our offense right now. Plus, he has nothing to prove, and will come here only because of the Golden Parachute.

With Russ Grimm, it harkens back to the notion that this team is grasping at every person they can find from the Glory Years in the hopes that they will lead us back there. It's like writing checks from an account that has long been closed.

And with Saunders and Williams, we'd be going back to the route of choosing coordinators who haven't proven they can take the next step as a head coach.

So, of those arguments against, Russ Grimm is the one I object to least.

[DynamiteRave]

Oops. I said Other but I MEANT Cowher. I just like the guy. He's emotional, he's just that kinda controlling powerhouse kinda guy. I'm kinda eh, middle of the road, about the cupcake , not yelling stuff. Cowher was just all over his players, or at least he made it look like it. I dunno about you, but if a guy yells at me, I'm definitely getting my act together.