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If Not Joe, Then Who?

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View Poll Results: If Gibbs Doesn't Return, Who Should Be the Head Coach?
Bill Cowher 60 30.00%
Russ Grimm 45 22.50%
Al Saunders 9 4.50%
Gregg Williams 68 34.00%
Other (tell us who) 18 9.00%
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:00 PM   #1
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Re: If Not Joe, Then Who?

Well lets look at the two canidates in our organization first...Saunders I think is hell no. I dont really know what to say about his stay here...but it's sucked. It's def. not his fault, but I just don't think he really earned any consideration here (again, thats prob some on him, some on Gibbs and their style clashes).

Now Gregg Williams is tough, yeah he had a tough stint as head coach before...well so did Bill Belicheck, and Wade Phillips first run was not so great. Its not like he's been the head coach for five teams and sucked with them all. He had a bad team in Buffalo, so I honestly wouldnt care and actually would accept him as head coach...

Now if not Gregg, I really dont want another "big name" guy coming in. I think if we did bring a big name in, Cowher is probaboly the safest bet because the guy can coach football, but I'd rather have Grimm come in and take over. He would be hungry, he knows the orginization, and he can coach offense (which is our real problem right now)...my biggest wonder is that if Williams isnt our next head coach, is there any chance we can get him to stay as our D-Coordinator.

Roughly put, I'm all for a new coach. I'm not a Gibbs "hater", in fact I really like Joe Gibbs the person and love what he's done for this orginazation even though I didn't get to enjoy any of it..and I can certianly understand why people are loyal to him. But to me, you are what your record says you are, and we've sucked, we've given away 4th quarter lead after 4th quarter lead, and I'm just sick of it. I'll say this...if we were "gauranteed" to win the Super Bowl next year, theres no person I'd like to see as our head coach that leads us there than Joe Gibbs. I really realy want him to succeed. I've just seen the same mistakes too many times and just want a change in the organization.

My first choice would be Russ Grimm, but Gregg Williams is right there too. I'd rank Cowher third. Honestly, I dont know who else I'd really want here outside of one of those three. I really dont think Cowher has any real interest in coming back to coach.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:02 PM   #2
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Re: If Not Joe, Then Who?

I hate to say it but it is coming soon, Coach will step down.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:08 PM   #3
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Re: If Not Joe, Then Who?

As for other candidates, I've always liked Bruce Arians
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:12 PM   #4
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Re: If Not Joe, Then Who?

I gota go with GW. He is going to bring continuity with this team and he already has a rapport with the players
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:12 PM   #5
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Re: If Not Joe, Then Who?

I think GW should be the next coach! When this happens the Redskins insure that the team will not have to learn a new offense, or learn a new defense...just learn to close out games that have eluded us for the past 7 or so years.

Coach Gibbs will and will always be the savior of D.C. and will continue to fight for the organization but in another capacity other than coach
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:19 PM   #6
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Re: If Not Joe, Then Who?

I would prefer either Grimm or Mike Singletary.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:25 PM   #7
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I would prefer either Grimm or Mike Singletary.
Mike Singletary, nice choice. I thought I heard he was a head coaching candidate at some college though.

Baylor maybe?
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Mike Singletary, nice choice. I thought I heard he was a head coaching candidate at some college though.

Baylor maybe?
I had never thought of Singletary, but he's universally respected. I do want to see Gregg Williams get his shot here. He remained loyal to Gibbs when he could have left for a head coaching job after his first year here.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:24 PM   #9
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Re: If Not Joe, Then Who?

I voted 'Other'. I would like to see an unknown take the reins, much like Gibbs and Cowher did. We need a gutsy, innovative guy that will stay up all night trying to figure out the best way to win each week. Also, one who isn't worried about current player relationships. This will allow the new coach to bench or get rid of any player regardless of who it is. I want a guy who makes every member of the team from the coaching staff to the players afraid for their jobs.

Bottom line: If "he's" hungry, then I want him coaching the team.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:32 PM   #10
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Re: If Not Joe, Then Who?

It hard to say who be be a better head coach, without know knowing how they would assemble their staff. For instance If Cower took the Job, he'd probably call the defense, but who would be his OC? If Grimm or Cower took the job GWill would more than likely be gone. I believe that if Gibbs leaves and GWill does not get the job, we give him another Million from the Snyd. Its a tough call, but some level of change may be required.
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Re: If Not Joe, Then Who?

Based on the question, I would have to answer Gregg Williams. This was clearly a 5 year plan that they set up in 2004, and we still have to see the final year play out. So you don't want great upheaval in the coaching staff. Promote GW to head coach, promote Blache to defensive coordinator, and let Saunders work with the offense.

But that's only if Gibbs steps aside this offseason. Gibbs is our best option to coach going forward. If he doesn't want to be on the field next year, by promoting Gregg Williams and Blache and leaving the offense in tact, you essentially keep this team the way Gibbs builds it. If Gibbs stays next year, things dont get better, and then he walks away, then I think it's time to clean house as far as the coordinators go.

We haven't been especially good with the coaching this year. Certainly it hasn't been historically bad enough to cost us any games, but the room for improvement is there, and arguably necessary.
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Based on the question, I would have to answer Gregg Williams. This was clearly a 5 year plan that they set up in 2004, and we still have to see the final year play out. So you don't want great upheaval in the coaching staff. Promote GW to head coach, promote Blache to defensive coordinator, and let Saunders work with the offense.

But that's only if Gibbs steps aside this offseason. Gibbs is our best option to coach going forward. If he doesn't want to be on the field next year, by promoting Gregg Williams and Blache and leaving the offense in tact, you essentially keep this team the way Gibbs builds it. If Gibbs stays next year, things dont get better, and then he walks away, then I think it's time to clean house as far as the coordinators go.

We haven't been especially good with the coaching this year. Certainly it hasn't been historically bad enough to cost us any games, but the room for improvement is there, and arguably necessary.
Technically Blache is the defensive coordinator already.
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Williams, of course, better start doing his CURRENT job better. We really aren't that far away on either side of the ball, but our coverage is just too damn soft. For big plays to happen when we play so damn soft the whole entire game is totally inexcusable.
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Williams, of course, better start doing his CURRENT job better. We really aren't that far away on either side of the ball, but our coverage is just too damn soft. For big plays to happen when we play so damn soft the whole entire game is totally inexcusable.
Unfortunately, Gibbs/Saunders tend to move away from plays/formations that are working, resulting in the flat 2nd half offensive performances that have led to defeat. Buffalo defended the run great all day, and Cooley/Moss were tearing them up. They had no answer for 3 and 4 receiver sets. Somehow, we got away from what was working against this D as soon as we went up 16-5. This has been a recurring theme all season. To hell with balance if the opposing defense demonstrates zero ability to stop a part of our game plan. Keep attacking that weakness until the cows come home.
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Williams, of course, better start doing his CURRENT job better. We really aren't that far away on either side of the ball, but our coverage is just too damn soft. For big plays to happen when we play so damn soft the whole entire game is totally inexcusable.
In my opinion, the defense is doing a pretty decent job. Are they doing enough to compensate for the offense's shortcomings? No. Are they stopping opponents from making plays in some key situations? No. But, they're doing a decent job, particularly when you consider that Sean passed away, Rogers in on IR, and Springs and Smoot have been playing with injuries or missing games.
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