Who called the 2nd timeout?

[MTK]

Sorry if this has already been mentioned but what's up with the fact that Gibbs asked the ref if he could take back to back timeouts and the ref said yes??

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Sorry if this has already been mentioned but what's up with the fact that Gibbs asked the ref if he could take back to back timeouts and the ref said yes??

It's not the referee's job to educate a head coach on the rules.. It's like asking 'can I hold the DE if I get beat?' Sure you can hold him if you want, but I'm gonna flag you for holding.

Guys, no matter how we want to spin it, that was an unexcusable error. You have to know the rules, flat out.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

It's not the referee's job to educate a head coach on the rules.. It's like asking 'can I hold the DE if I get beat?' Sure you can hold him if you want, but I'm gonna flag you for holding.

Guys, no matter how we want to spin it, that was an unexcusable error. You have to know the rules, flat out.

The ref shouldn't have responded then. Just seems odd that he would say yes, a little misleading if you ask me. Coaches ask refs for clarification of the rules all the time. Don't get me wrong Gibbs is still responsible, but it's still worth discussing why the ref told him yes.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The ref shouldn't have responded then. Just seems odd that he would say yes, a little misleading if you ask me. Coaches ask refs for clarification of the rules all the time. Don't get me wrong Gibbs is still responsible, but it's still worth discussing why the ref told him yes.

I don't see why it's worth disucssing. It's not his job to educate coaches on the rules.. Asking for clarification is one thing, but asking on something absoulte is inexcusable.

Playing devils advocate, let's say Gibbs asked and the ref told him it was a penalty and he doesn't call it and Lindell missed the kick short. After the game, Gibbs says 'I was going to call the second timeout but the official reminded me it would be a 15 yard penalty so I didn't call it. Thanks to him, we probably won the game!' Can you imagine the firestorm coming out of Buffalo this morning? That's why the ref has to respond directly to the question asked, not offering anything more than 'yes, you can.'

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Sorry if this has already been mentioned but what's up with the fact that Gibbs asked the ref if he could take back to back timeouts and the ref said yes??

He should know the rule, period or his coaches should be in his ear. No excuse for that. I don't quite understand how we can side w/ JG's on this one, he blew it.

The ref may have answered the question, w/ yes you can call a timeout w/out adding the fact there is a penalty.

Their kicker probably would have made it anyhow.