Why Tom Brady is a complete and utter d-bag and the Pats have no class

[HOGTIMUS PRIME]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I didnt think it was a catch and I have backup,plus they answered my other question about the penalties,this from profootballtalk.com

The other complaint from Ravens fans is that on Brady's game-winning touchdown pass to Jabar Gaffney with 44 seconds left, Gaffney stepped out of bounds before he had possession. There, the Ravens appear to have a good case.

In 2005, Lions tight end Marcus Pollard caught a pass in the end zone that was ruled a touchdown on the field but overturned on replay because the referee ruled that Pollard had not controlled the ball. That call was later backed up by NFL head ref Mike Pereira, who told then-Lions coach Steve Mariucci that a receiver has to have control, not just have his hands on the ball. Gaffney had his hands on the ball but did not have control when he stepped out of bounds, meaning (to my eyes, anyway) that if the Pollard play was ruled correctly in 2005, the Gaffney play was ruled incorrectly last night.

Of course, thanks to Ravens linebacker Bart Scott going bonkos after Gaffney's touchdown and getting two personal foul penalties, the Patriots would have had first-and-goal at the 2-yard line if Gaffney's touchdown had been overturned. So the Patriots still would have had a very good chance of scoring the game-winning touchdown.

It was as plain as day that that was not a catch, no doubt what so ever, I find it sceptical that no one in the booth really jumped on it, and that it took a replay official about 2 seconds to rule it a catch, although I think they score as well because of the penalties that ensued. It seemed to me the NFL is making sure the Pats run the table, which is a shame because their more than capable of doing it without their help. Kind of reminiscent to the job done by the ref's on Seattle in the SB 2 seasons ago.

The fact that Gaffneys catch has not been more emphasized for the fact that a replay official had a perfect look at it and couldn't get it right, and everyone else brushing it aside, because lets face it that was a huge play given the circumstances involved, to me screams fix. Not that the Pats wouldn't or couldn't have done it any way, but they weren't about to take that chance.

Such a quick decision from the replay booth? I don't think they wanted to spend much time raising scepticism and more replays of the catch which would make it more difficult to sweep under the rug.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by HOGTIMUS PRIME

It was as plain as day that that was not a catch, no doubt what so ever, I find it sceptical that no one in the booth really jumped on it, and that it took a replay official about 2 seconds to rule it a catch, although I think they score as well because of the penalties that ensued. It seemed to me the NFL is making sure the Pats run the table, which is a shame because their more than capable of doing it without their help. Kind of reminiscent to the job done by the ref's on Seattle in the SB 2 seasons ago.

The fact that Gaffneys catch has not been more emphasized for the fact that a replay official had a perfect look at it and couldn't get it right, and everyone else brushing it aside, because lets face it that was a huge play given the circumstances involved, to me screams fix. Not that the Pats wouldn't or couldn't have done it any way, but they weren't about to take that chance.

Such a quick decision from the replay booth? I don't think they wanted to spend much time raising scepticism and more replays of the catch which would make it more difficult to sweep under the rug.

Ok, I keep hearing that the NFL wants the Pats to win the SB. The Pats are not looked at by the public as a so called American team. They are far from that and very hard to market as they have a coach unliked in football and the team has that cheaters image on them. So can you give me any go reasons why the NFL would want (and by saying this stacking the cards against the other teams) the Pats to win the SB. Also to think this the NFL has to meet with the refs who do each of the Pats games to let them in on this little scam that you bring up.

[HOGTIMUS PRIME]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Ok, I keep hearing that the NFL wants the Pats to win the SB. The Pats are not looked at by the public as a so called American team. They are far from that and very hard to market as they have a coach unliked in football and the team has that cheaters image on them. So can you give me any go reasons why the NFL would want (and by saying this stacking the cards against the other teams) the Pats to win the SB. Also to think this the NFL has to meet with the refs who do each of the Pats games to let them in on this little scam that you bring up.

Its front page news, which is advertising dollars, no different than when baseball turned a blind eye on Pete Roses gambling during his hit streak trying to catch Dimaggio, baseball pulled him aside and told him to back off the gambling which he didn't, but because he was filling stadiums, and had every one glued to the TV the let it slide, so much for the integrity of the game.

Do you really think they have to tell a ref what they want? It's far to easy to control with the old wink and a nod. Don't under estimate the greed factor when big money is involved. Just take a look at basketball, that is not an isolated incident. I wont even get into boxing. The hierarchy of the NFL is about money not the thrill of competition unless that will make them more money.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by HOGTIMUS PRIME

Its front page news, which is advertising dollars, no different than when baseball turned a blind eye on Pete Roses gambling during his hit streak trying to catch Dimaggio, baseball pulled him aside and told him to back off the gambling which he didn't, but because he was filling stadiums, and had every one glued to the TV the let it slide, so much for the integrity of the game.

Do you really think they have to tell a ref what they want? It's far to easy to control with the old wink and a nod. Don't under estimate the greed factor when big money is involved. Just take a look at basketball, that is not an isolated incident. I wont even get into boxing. The hierarchy of the NFL is about money not the thrill of competition unless that will make them more money.

Whats Boxing. LOL Yes I think they would have to inform the Ref's if they wanted a team to get the wink and the nod. People are tire of the Pats winning the SB so to say the NFL wants them in would make no sense at all because it will turn more people off then two new teams playing. I joked about boxing but that is why boxing has fallen so far because it was so easy to rig. One person go to the other boxer and say here is $ take a dive in round 3 or 4. If your really believed the NFL was trying to fix the SB then why would you even watch football. The SB is known for boring games but still it rakes in the money so I don't think that it really matters who is playing and goes to show that they don't fix the games.