Should Joe Gibbs be let go or retire?

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about when I say there are people that don't allow others to be fans. We'd lost four games in a row and suffered the death of one the best players the leagues has seen in a long long time. And then we finally win, and hold onto our glimmer of hope for a playoff or at the very least a strong finish to the year and a winning record.

Look big picture I know we have issues that need to be addressed. I also know that we have made significant strides in several areas both on and off the field (I'm done pointing them out). But what is so wrong with just enjoying the game and enjoying a win? Why does every game (win or lose) have to be followed by this same damn "conservative play-calling, 2005 was a fraud" discussion?

the thread is called Should joe go, nothing about last nights game? This discussion started well before last nights game. This has absolutely nothing to do about last nights game. has nothing to do with anyone being a fan or letting people be fans. This was a question asked and we all simply responded. Turst me, I was at the bar until 1 celebrating the win. I can seperate the enjoyment of winning and addressing what I feel is a less than average coaching staff.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

the thread is called Should joe go, nothing about last nights game? This discussion started well before last nights game. This has absolutely nothing to do about last nights game. has nothing to do with anyone being a fan or letting people be fans. This was a question asked and we all simply responded. Turst me, I was at the bar until 1 celebrating the win. I can seperate the enjoyment of winning and addressing what I feel is a less than average coaching staff.

So after celebrating a win 3 days after a funeral and 4 days after their last game, in a game where Campbell, Portis, Smoot, Cooley, Thomas were all injured in...you come home and post that the coach should be fired.

I wish I had such a clear-thinking mind...what's your secret? The beer?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buster

So after celebrating a win 3 days after a funeral and 4 days after their last game, in a game where Campbell, Portis, Smoot, Cooley, Thomas were all injured in...you come home and post that the coach should be fired.

I wish I had such a clear-thinking mind...what's your secret? The beer?

LOL gotta love it

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Buster

So after celebrating a win 3 days after a funeral and 4 days after their last game, in a game where Campbell, Portis, Smoot, Cooley, Thomas were all injured in...you come home and post that the coach should be fired.

I wish I had such a clear-thinking mind...what's your secret? The beer?

why is it people can't handle the truth. I just dont understand why I get blasted because I feel Joe hasn't done anything worth note since being here. I have asked people to give me an opinion on what they think Joe has done, and no one has offered what they think he has done that is a success. 1 playoff in 4 years isn't something to say we are in the elite teams of the NFL. I dont want to settle for 1 playoff every 5 years. I dont see where this team has progressed in 4 years. I am sorry I dont drink the cool-aid all the time, but dont rag on a guy who doesn't drink from the same fountain. I am stating what I see, what most people see. We are not very good. and I am tired hearing about injuries. That is crap. of the 7 games we lost, 6 we had half time leads, if not 4th quarter leads in the majority of those 6. If the injuries were that devistating we wouldn't have even been in most of those games.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

why is it people can't handle the truth. I just dont understand why I get blasted because I feel Joe hasn't done anything worth note since being here. I have asked people to give me an opinion on what they think Joe has done, and no one has offered what they think he has done that is a success. 1 playoff in 4 years isn't something to say we are in the elite teams of the NFL. I dont want to settle for 1 playoff every 5 years. I dont see where this team has progressed in 4 years. I am sorry I dont drink the cool-aid all the time, but dont rag on a guy who doesn't drink from the same fountain. I am stating what I see, what most people see. We are not very good. and I am tired hearing about injuries. That is crap. of the 7 games we lost, 6 we had half time leads, if not 4th quarter leads in the majority of those 6. If the injuries were that devistating we wouldn't have even been in most of those games.

Ok, we can't handle the truth. Bring in another coach, throw him in the same scenario as Gibbs and lets see how successful that coach is? I guarantee you that coach would fail miserably, no matter if he's Lombardi, Walsh, Cowher.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Ok, we can't handle the truth. Bring in another coach, throw him in the same scenario as Gibbs and lets see how successful that coach is? I guarantee you that coach would fail miserably, no matter if he's Lombardi, Walsh, Cowher.

hey I dont doubt what you are saying. We have had 5 coaches in 10 years, and none of them win on a consistant basis. So, I agree, no reason there to think they would succeed.

I know you are being sarcastic, but what you say may be true and bring to light the way the team is run from top to bottom.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Ok, we can't handle the truth. Bring in another coach, throw him in the same scenario as Gibbs and lets see how successful that coach is? I guarantee you that coach would fail miserably, no matter if he's Lombardi, Walsh, Cowher.

The problem is we are going to have and wait another year to see if your right and what is this scenario he was brought into?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by firstdown

The problem is we are going to have and wait another year to see if your right and what is this scenario he was brought into?

I just hope that JC's injury is not serious to the point that will set him back a year like Donovan McNabb. I want JC to comeback healthy and another year wiser so Joe can prove that he still has it.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I just hope that JC's injury is not serious to the point that will set him back a year like Donovan McNabb. I want JC to comeback healthy and another year wiser so Joe can prove that he still has it.

It's not.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Buster

So after celebrating a win 3 days after a funeral and 4 days after their last game, in a game where Campbell, Portis, Smoot, Cooley, Thomas were all injured in...you come home and post that the coach should be fired.

I wish I had such a clear-thinking mind...what's your secret? The beer?

what the hell does that have to do with anything? I can't celebrate a win. I guess when we were stinking it up with spurrier, Norv, Petibone, marty you never celebrated, then said they should gone the next year. I highly doubt it.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

what the hell does that have to do with anything? I can't celebrate a win. I guess when we were stinking it up with spurrier, Norv, Petibone, marty you never celebrated, then said they should gone the next year. I highly doubt it.

It's just funny that you say you were "celebrating the win", yet your first postgame comment was saying Gibbs should be fired.

After all the shit that's gone down the past 10 days, I don't know about you but last night's win was a huge freaking relief. And for at least a few days now I'm going to forget about our problems and just bask in the glow of the W.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's just funny that you say you were "celebrating the win", yet your first postgame comment was saying Gibbs should be fired.

After all the shit that's gone down the past 10 days, I don't know about you but last night's win was a huge freaking relief. And for at least a few days now I'm going to forget about our problems and just bask in the glow of the W.

Amen!

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's just funny that you say you were "celebrating the win", yet your first postgame comment was saying Gibbs should be fired.

After all the shit that's gone down the past 10 days, I don't know about you but last night's win was a huge freaking relief. And for at least a few days now I'm going to forget about our problems and just bask in the glow of the W.

Just because I say Joe should leave, does not diminish or put a damper on the way I felt about last nights game. I went to bed very happy about the win, and in the back of my mind still believe we have a shot at winning the next few games, and possibly sneaking in the playoffs. thats just the cool aid person in me, unfortunately the realistic side of me comes out more on this site. Just because I dont think Gibbs isn't doing what we all thought he was going to do does not make me bitter towards the Skins, or i could care if we win or lose. that is the furtherst from the truth. I am just not one to think 1 win out of 5 games is the savior of the season, when in all reality, we should have won 4 of those 5. Notice I am not posting any of the gloom and doom on any of the game threads.