Why All The Hate Toward The Patriots?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mheisig

That's not a tough question at all.

I'll take 6-7 with Joe Gibbs' character over 13-0 with Belichick's character any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Well I guess you like losing then. Personally I'm tired of it and I'd rather be 13-0. Bill B. isn't as bad as everyone says he is. I know his players like him and that's cause he coaches them hard and they seem to respond well to it.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well I guess you like losing then. Personally I'm tired of it and I'd rather be 13-0. Bill B. isn't as bad as everyone says he is. I know his players like him and that's cause he coaches them hard and they seem to respond well to it.

They respond well to him since Brady became the QB . Belichick is the Ringo Starr of the New England Patriots. He's just tagging along for the ride.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

They respond well to him since Brady became the QB . Belichick is the Ringo Starr of the New England Patriots. He's just tagging along for the ride.

C'mon, 70? You don't believe that, do you? Belichick is a great head coach and Brady is a great QB. They both have played a mutual role in the other's success, no doubt. I think Gibbs was right for his time and with all due respect, I certainly think Belichick is right for his too.

Unlike Gibbs of the 80s, Belichick has only won with one quarterback. But then again, name a head coach that has won more Super Bowls with different QBs other than Gibbs? None. And therein lies the genius of Joe Gibbs, in my opinion. You couldn't chalk up his success to one great player. Gibbs won with different running backs, different quarterbacks, different field goal kickers...everything....he's the man.

BB, on the other hand, has dominated in an era where free agency and parity have ruled - or at least tried. I think he deserves a lot of credit for that as well.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

C'mon, 70? You don't believe that, do you? Belichick is a great head coach and Brady is a great QB. They both have played a mutual role in the other's success, no doubt. I think Gibbs was right for his time and with all due respect, I certainly think Belichick is right for his too.

Unlike Gibbs of the 80s, Belichick has only one with one quarterback. But then again, name a head coach that has won more Super Bowls with different QBs other than Gibbs? None. And therein lies the genius of Joe Gibbs, in my opinion. You couldn't chalk up his success to one great player. Gibbs won with different running backs, different quarterbacks, different field goal kickers...everything....he's the man.

BB, on the other hand, has dominated in an era where free agency and parity have ruled - or at least tried. I think he deserves a lot of credit for that as well.

Yeah I agree.

I hate Belichick just like everyone else, but you have to tip your hat to what he's done in New England. To have this much success over such a long period of time is incredible and much more than just tagging along for the ride. Please, that's just ridiculous.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

They respond well to him since Brady became the QB . Belichick is the Ringo Starr of the New England Patriots. He's just tagging along for the ride.

Man you are cracking me up. He's tagging along for the ride???? BB may be a dick, he may suck at media relations, me may suck at having a charming personality, but you can not deny that he is a great football coach. If you don't realize that then you don't know much about football.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Man you are cracking me up. He's tagging along for the ride???? BB may be a dick, he may suck at media relations, me may suck at having a charming personality, but you can not deny that he is a great football coach. If you don't realize that then you don't know much about football.

It's a slow day at work, what can I say...

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well I guess you like losing then. Personally I'm tired of it and I'd rather be 13-0. Bill B. isn't as bad as everyone says he is. I know his players like him and that's cause he coaches them hard and they seem to respond well to it.

Did I say that I "like losing"? All I said was that I'll take character and a tough season over a douchebag with a winning season.

The whole question is a false dichotomy to begin with anyway. Tony Dungy is, by anyone's account, a standup guy, and he certainly doesn't have a problem winning.

The alternatives aren't "immoral, unethical douchebag who always wins" or "really nice, ethical guy with character who always loses." There are other options.