AST (After Sean Taylor)-To gun or not to gun?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

no prob for clarifying... i didn't quite understand what you diagreed with...

and the DC area is a prime example. There are gun related crimes daily in that small city and there is a citywide ban on all handguns.

Well, maybe you can answer why there is a ban on radar / lasar detectors? I have owned one for years...in fact I have the Beltronics rx65 and it's AMAZINGLY GOOD! But they have all said that the DC area bans those detectors, unsure why.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, maybe you can answer why there is a ban on radar / lasar detectors? I have owned one for years...in fact I have the Beltronics rx65 and it's AMAZINGLY GOOD! But they have all said that the DC area bans those detectors, unsure why.

Well I can't answer for the radar ban but I know that the gun ban isn't doing any good (hell I didn't even know there was a gun ban) cause I have friends that have high-powered automatic weapons like Tech-9s, desert eagles and I know for sure they don't have a license for them. They aren't thugs or anything thank God, just gun nuts.

Although one of my friends who does own guns/rifles/automatics said that in her neighborhood which isn't too far from mine, that people in her neighborhood who own automatic weapons on the 4th of July and new years, go outside with their automatic weapons and shoot them in the air. Like idiots. :smashfrea

This is just an example of how its incredibly easy to pick up a gun from anyone for anyone. Thats why I think there needs to be tighter laws. So idiots can't get their hands on them.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, maybe you can answer why there is a ban on radar / lasar detectors? I have owned one for years...in fact I have the Beltronics rx65 and it's AMAZINGLY GOOD! But they have all said that the DC area bans those detectors, unsure why.

I'd speculate increased ticket revenue.... but thats just a guess

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

most people that support their second amendment rights are borderline fanatical. not saying you, jsarno. but if the shoe fits....

No its the anti gun people who make them out to be fanatical. I support the second and believe people should have the right to own guns and I don't even own one.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by firstdown

No its the anti gun people who make them out to be fanatical. I support the second and believe people should have the right to own guns and I don't even own one.

People make fanaticism sound bad.

Am I "fanatical" about preserving my right to protect myself and my family? Damn straight.

I'm also fanatical about the U.S. not being invaded, I'm fanatical about the Redskins, low cost auto insurance and goo deals on electronics.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by firstdown

No its the anti gun people who make them out to be fanatical. I support the second and believe people should have the right to own guns and I don't even own one.

in my case, this isn't true. i have talked to a bunch of people at my work who are avid believers in the second amendment. once i ask a bunch of them how they would react if the united states would enact total gun control. they all said that would never happen. and if it would, they would have to pry them out of their dead hands. and they were serious. i guess that's how things like Waco happen. because most of those guys own HUNDREDS of guns. which, to me, is even more of a reason to have some sort of gun control. one of thee guys owns a fully automatic AK47. what exactly is the purpose of owning a gun like that?

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by dmek25

in my case, this isn't true. i have talked to a bunch of people at my work who are avid believers in the second amendment. once i ask a bunch of them how they would react if the united states would enact total gun control. they all said that would never happen. and if it would, they would have to pry them out of their dead hands. and they were serious. i guess that's how things like Waco happen. because most of those guys own HUNDREDS of guns. which, to me, is even more of a reason to have some sort of gun control. one of thee guys owns a fully automatic AK47. what exactly is the purpose of owning a gun like that?

I know several people who own fully automatic rifles, none of which are wack-jobs ready to go off the deep end. They're actually all engineers who are just enthusiastic about the engineering and design aspect of firearms.

What's the purpose of owning a $650,000 Mercedes-Benz SLR? Who knows...it's hardly useful on public streets and it's the definition of excess, but I wouldn't begrudge anyone who wanted to drop the necessary dough on it.

Hell, I'd get one myself if I had the money.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by mheisig

I know several people who own fully automatic rifles, none of which are wack-jobs ready to go off the deep end. They're actually all engineers who are just enthusiastic about the engineering and design aspect of firearms.

What's the purpose of owning a $650,000 Mercedes-Benz SLR? Who knows...it's hardly useful on public streets and it's the definition of excess, but I wouldn't begrudge anyone who wanted to drop the necessary dough on it.

Hell, I'd get one myself if I had the money.

im not sure about your analogy? ones a driving machine. the others sole intent is killing. there is a helluva difference

[dmek25]

and with being fanatical, most of the time people cant think reasonably, when it comes to the things that they are fanatical about. using the redskins for example. how many times have people said things that are totally off the wall regarding the skins? it happens all the time. your thinking gets obscured. you cant reason properly about the things your are a fanatic about