The Vinny and the Scouts Appreciation Thread

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I am all for giving credit to where it is due, but lets not forget this success seems small coming behind 6 or 7 years of some really poor talent evalution of lower round picks and free agents. I do not think there is anything wrong with pointing out how bad the drafting lower round picks and free agents (non-drafted) players has been. I mean really bad. It is not "bitching and complaining" when I am merely giving a different view point.
I give most of the credit to the new found success of finding hidden gems to Gibbs and not Cerratto. The success started when Gibbs and co, arrived. Cerrato has his own track record before Gibbs got here and it is not pretty.
We had the highest payroll $ and one of the lower performing teams.
The proof was on the field every Sunday. I do not care how talented our team appeared on paper.

Keep in mind...someone has to COACH the players....do you think HEYER would be successful without BUGES?
What about Montgomery and Golston?

Its the combination of a solid coaching staff's influence on who to target combined with daily work....especially with "less talented" players.
Spurrier did not have that ability...nor did Norv or Marty.
Spurrier makes his players look worse, Norv can only make his offensive players play to their potential and Marty....well....he likes to punt a lot.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Keep in mind...someone has to COACH the players....do you think HEYER would be successful without BUGES?
What about Montgomery and Golston?

Its the combination of a solid coaching staff's influence on who to target combined with daily work....especially with "less talented" players.
Spurrier did not have that ability...nor did Norv or Marty.
Spurrier makes his players look worse, Norv can only make his offensive players play to their potential and Marty....well....he likes to punt a lot.

Yes I agree. But is it not the the job and responsibility of the Owner and Front Office to hire the coaching staff as well as draft the players?
So either way the Owner and FO made some decisions that did not work out and cost us some poor seasons.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Yes I agree. But is it not the the job and responsibility of the Owner and Front Office to hire the coaching staff as well as draft the players?
So either way the Owner and FO made some decisions that did not work out and cost us some poor seasons.

True...the best move the front office ever made was this.

They heaviliy recruited and rehire Joe Gibbs and have let him heavily influence most FO decisions

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

True...the best move the front office ever made was this.

They heaviliy recruited and rehire Joe Gibbs and have let him heavily influence most FO decisions

I am glad we agree.
That was the point I was trying to make on my 1st post on this thread. I credit Gibbs with our new found success, not so much Cerratto.