What Changes Should We Make Going Into 08?

[skinsfan69]

People.... we lost that game yesterday in the trenches. Football games are won and lost in the trenches! We have to get better in that area. I don't want to hear about WR's and CB's. The O-line needs depth and a youth movement in the worst way. Fabini, Wade and Kendall are just stop gaps. I also didn't see Hassleback under duress for most of the game. Where is our pass rush from the front 4? Your weaknesses really show up in the playoffs and ours did yesterday. Pass rushers and o-linemen should be the number 1 priority.

[T.O.Killa]

Does anyone realize that Mix and Calvin Johnson have the sa,e build. I like what I have seen from Mix. Maybe he can be our big reciever. From what I have seen and heard he is very fast.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Does anyone realize that Mix and Calvin Johnson have the sa,e build. I like what I have seen from Mix. Maybe he can be our big reciever. From what I have seen and heard he is very fast.

The difference is one has serious skills and the other one does not.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

People.... we lost that game yesterday in the trenches. Football games are won and lost in the trenches! We have to get better in that area. I don't want to hear about WR's and CB's. The O-line needs depth and a youth movement in the worst way. Fabini, Wade and Kendall are just stop gaps. I also didn't see Hassleback under duress for most of the game. Where is our pass rush from the front 4? Your weaknesses really show up in the playoffs and ours did yesterday. Pass rushers and o-linemen should be the number 1 priority.

Definitely agree about the O-line, that's why I think we should spend our 2nd, 3rd, and possibly 5th round picks on linemen. I'm not convinced there is an offensive guard or tackle available around where we draft in the first round. Heyer got abused yesterday but it's part of the maturation process. Overall, I think we've found a real gem in him. I also think we might have another diamond in the rough in Lorenzo Alexander if we commit fully to making him an offensive lineman.

Defensively, I probably haven't mentioned this on this site before but I think Justin Smith would be a great pickup If we go the draft route to get a DE, then that's where I think you spend your first round pick. I think Carter has more than proven himself at the other end and Wilson has emerged as a good 3rd down pass rusher. One guy who had an underrated year this past season was DeMetric Evans when they lined him up on the inside.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Definitely agree about the O-line, that's why I think we should spend our 2nd, 3rd, and possibly 5th round picks on linemen. I'm not convinced there is an offensive guard or tackle available around where we draft in the first round. Heyer got abused yesterday but it's part of the maturation process. Overall, I think we've found a real gem in him. I also think we might have another diamond in the rough in Lorenzo Alexander if we commit fully to making him an offensive lineman.

Defensively, I probably haven't mentioned this on this site before but I think Justin Smith would be a great pickup If we go the draft route to get a DE, then that's where I think you spend your first round pick. I think Carter has more than proven himself at the other end and Wilson has emerged as a good 3rd down pass rusher. One guy who had an underrated year this past season was DeMetric Evans when they lined him up on the inside.

Justin Smith?? He's a solid player on a bad defense. But why would Cinn. let him walk when he's probably their best defensive player? We need a dominate guy with a high motor on our front 7. I just don't see that in Smith. We gotta draft a guy. Someone like a Ware or Merriman. Someone that just creates havoc.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Justin Smith?? He's a solid player on a bad defense. But why would Cinn. let him walk when he's probably their best defensive player? We need a dominate guy with a high motor on our front 7. I just don't see that in Smith. We gotta draft a guy. Someone like a Ware or Merriman. Someone that just creates havoc.

Someone like a Derrick Harvey?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Someone like a Derrick Harvey?

yea derrick harvey is an animal always going and created havoc on a consistene basis, possibly the best pass rusher in the draft if he comes out

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

yea derrick harvey is an animal always going and created havoc on a consistene basis, possibly the best pass rusher in the draft if he comes out

Except isn't he more suited for a 3-4? He is from Greenbelt, MD though

Still if we're going to draft a DE in the first round I'd prefer Groves or Campbell

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Except isn't he more suited for a 3-4? He is from Greenbelt, MD though

Still if we're going to draft a DE in the first round I'd prefer Groves or Campbell

He is one of those that can go both ways as a guy who puts his hand down or a stand up guy off the edge he has played both alot at Florida and he is a nice guy at that. lol

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

yea derrick harvey is an animal always going and created havoc on a consistene basis, possibly the best pass rusher in the draft if he comes out

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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Someone like a Derrick Harvey?

I'm not sure if he's big enough to be a 4-3 end. I think he's only 260lbs. He looks like he fits in well as an outside backer in a 3-4. But I'm sure he still has alot of growing to do. I remember he just abused Ohio State last year so I'm sold on him. Plus he's a local DC guy. It would be a great fit. But I think I'd rather have Chris Long. Long is just like his father. Mean, nasty and he brings an attitude.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm not sure if he's big enough to be a 4-3 end. I think he's only 260lbs. He looks like he fits in well as an outside backer in a 3-4. But I'm sure he still has alot of growing to do. I remember he just abused Ohio State last year so I'm sold on him. Plus he's a local DC guy. It would be a great fit. But I think I'd rather have Chris Long. Long is just like his father. Mean, nasty and he brings an attitude.

Carter is only 256

[SFREDSKIN]

And DeMarcus Ware is 252.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Carter is only 256

That's what I mean. We don't need another smallish DE.

[rk3025]

Chris Long is a Top pick and will be 'long' gone by our 21st pick
Groves
Blake
Jackson
Campbell
work them out for draft day

QUOTE=skinsfan69;403610]I'm not sure if he's big enough to be a 4-3 end. I think he's only 260lbs. He looks like he fits in well as an outside backer in a 3-4. But I'm sure he still has alot of growing to do. I remember he just abused Ohio State last year so I'm sold on him. Plus he's a local DC guy. It would be a great fit. But I think I'd rather have Chris Long. Long is just like his father. Mean, nasty and he brings an attitude.[/QUOTE]