Chargers and Norv

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I disagree, when Danny took over he got rid of Trent Green and brought Brad Johnson that was the downfall. Green went on to put up some # and make a few pro-bowl's Johnson took us to a playoff, but overall Green was much better. I blame Danny mostly.

And let's not forget Danny's big push for jeff george over johnson...that was brilliant too. Brad was a pretty solid qb, not amazing, but solid.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

And let's not forget Danny's big push for jeff george over johnson...that was brilliant too. Brad was a pretty solid qb, not amazing, but solid.

Didn't he go on to Tampa and win a SB?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I disagree, when Danny took over he got rid of Trent Green and brought Brad Johnson that was the downfall. Green went on to put up some # and make a few pro-bowl's Johnson took us to a playoff, but overall Green was much better. I blame Danny mostly.

You can't blame Snyder for the Green/Johnson situation cause he didn't have control of the team until the moves were already made. Trent Green was already gone before Danny got the team. Charley Casserly was the one who brought in Brad Johnson under John Cooke.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You can't blame Snyder for the Green/Johnson situation cause he didn't have control of the team until the moves were already made. Trent Green was already gone before Danny got the team. Charley Casserly was the one who brought in Brad Johnson under John Cooke.

Thank you! When will people stop saying Snyder got rid of Trent Green?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

I have no problems with Norv either...just wasn't the right coach for us at the time...and certainly not under the pressure Danny was putting on him. I hated the way they ran him out of here.

Yeah, Snyder really was a big problem. Norv did his best for us...I won't hold that against him.

[NinjaLink]

Chargers can't beat the Patriots. Oh, and yeah, Patriots will win another Superbowl! Go Patriots!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I know that there's a lot of Norv bashers in this forum, but you have to give him credit for taking his team to the conference finals. Marty chokenheimer couldn't do what Norv did. Go Chargers beat the Patriots and win the SB!!

C'mon dude. To compare Marty to Norv is a serious joke. Norv is a yes man who is riding the wave.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

C'mon dude. To compare Marty to Norv is a serious joke. Norv is a yes man who is riding the wave.

What has Marty Done? Show me? He'll have a great season and CHOKE!! At least Norv with the same team minus LaDanian lost in the 2nd quarter, Rivers lost in the 4th quarter, beat the Colts in Indy. Enough said!!!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

What has Marty Done? Show me? He'll have a great season and CHOKE!! At least Norv with the same team minus LaDanian lost in the 2nd quarter, Rivers lost in the 4th quarter, beat the Colts in Indy. Enough said!!!

So the players had nothing to do with that huh? John Elway had nothing to do with that? How is Byner fumbling on the one yard line Marty's fault?? I just think that the whole Marty is a choker stuff is bullshit. The dude is a damn good coach. Norv is just a good OC. He is not a leader of men.

Alot of people can coach the Chargers. They are set up to win now.They have the best RB in the NFL. They have the best pass rusher. One of the best NT's. A solid o-line. Real good corners. And the AFC West sucked this year.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So the players had nothing to do with that huh? John Elway had nothing to do with that? How is Byner fumbling on the one yard line Marty's fault?? I just think that the whole Marty is a choker stuff is bullshit. The dude is a damn good coach. Norv is just a good OC. He is not a leader of men.

Alot of people can coach the Chargers. They are set up to win now.They have the best RB in the NFL. They have the best pass rusher. One of the best NT's. A solid o-line. Real good corners. And the AFC West sucked this year.

Positive reputation points coming your way

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So the players had nothing to do with that huh? John Elway had nothing to do with that? How is Byner fumbling on the one yard line Marty's fault?? I just think that the whole Marty is a choker stuff is bullshit. The dude is a damn good coach. Norv is just a good OC. He is not a leader of men.

Alot of people can coach the Chargers. They are set up to win now.They have the best RB in the NFL. They have the best pass rusher. One of the best NT's. A solid o-line. Real good corners. And the AFC West sucked this year.

Wasn't you the one who said that coaches are overrated? You will never convince me that Marty is a great coach, he will be forever be remembered as a CHOKER to me and lots of fans till proven otherwise.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Wasn't you the one who said that coaches are overrated? You will never convince me that Marty is a great coach, he will be forever be remembered as a CHOKER to me and lots of fans till proven otherwise.

Unfortunately that's not how it works. That's the equivalent of putting your hands over your ears and shouting "LALALALLALA IM NOT LISTENING LALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU" which isnt really going to progress the argument.

The term "choker" is an argument designed to avoid substance since there is no criteria for choking. It's pretty much just "I dont like X player/coach, therefore he's a choker".

Please try again.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Wasn't you the one who said that coaches are overrated? You will never convince me that Marty is a great coach, he will be forever be remembered as a CHOKER to me and lots of fans till proven otherwise.

I said it was overrated because the teams that wins the SB ( most of the time) has the best players. Teams don't win the SB because of great coaching.

I'm not saying Marty is a great coach. But he's better than Norv.

[BleedBurgundy]

Anybody remember Bill Callahan taking Oak to the SB? That's how I see Norv's success this year. Schottenheimer put together a tough team and now Norv is riding those coattails as far as they'll take him.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Anybody remember Bill Callahan taking Oak to the SB? That's how I see Norv's success this year. Schottenheimer put together a tough team and now Norv is riding those coattails as far as they'll take him.

Wrong! The guy that died before A.J. Smith and AJ Smith.