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Old 01-22-2008, 02:10 PM   #1
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This really sucks, someone please send tapes of Fassel's B-more offense to Snyder so he can see exactly what happened while he was there. Seriously B-more's offense was so inept under Fassel it was pathetic. That and he wasn't anything special as a head coach either, Dan Snyder must not really care if we go 4-12. If he actually does hire Fassel it will basically confirm that we are not gonna change until either Snyder or Cerrato leaves this team.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:29 PM   #2
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OK people, chill on the Dan Snyder just wants to make money conspiracy theory. He's not effing around with coaches and free agents just to make more money. The answer is much more simple than that: he just doesn't understand football well enough.

He brought Gibbs in and gave him total control over personnel decisions. Two out of those four years, Gibbs took a very low-key approach to free agency. And during those years, we didn't have any coaching turnover. Amazingly, despite the relative stability, the team made a boatload of money!

Change does not lead to more revenue. Marketing (extremeskins, alternate uniforms, expanding the stadium, Redskins Radio, etcetera) makes more money. He's not thinking of bringing in Fassel to make more money. He's considering Fassel because he feels it's possible he'll be a better HC than GW.

He's in it to win it. If he picks Fassel, it shows he has no clue. If he picks GW, it shows that he's learning.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:32 PM   #3
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OK people, chill on the Dan Snyder just wants to make money conspiracy theory. He's not effing around with coaches and free agents just to make more money. The answer is much more simple than that: he just doesn't understand football well enough.

He brought Gibbs in and gave him total control over personnel decisions. Two out of those four years, Gibbs took a very low-key approach to free agency. And during those years, we didn't have any coaching turnover. Amazingly, despite the relative stability, the team made a boatload of money!

Change does not lead to more revenue. Marketing (extremeskins, alternate uniforms, expanding the stadium, Redskins Radio, etcetera) makes more money. He's not thinking of bringing in Fassel to make more money. He's considering Fassel because he feels it's possible he'll be a better HC than GW.

He's in it to win it. If he picks Fassel, it shows he has no clue. If he picks GW, it shows that he's learning.
I just don't get how he has less football knowledge and feeling for the game than some of the people on this site..haha...GW IS THE BEST CHOICE..DO IT!!!
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:40 PM   #4
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OK people, chill on the Dan Snyder just wants to make money conspiracy theory. He's not effing around with coaches and free agents just to make more money. The answer is much more simple than that: he just doesn't understand football well enough.

He brought Gibbs in and gave him total control over personnel decisions. Two out of those four years, Gibbs took a very low-key approach to free agency. And during those years, we didn't have any coaching turnover. Amazingly, despite the relative stability, the team made a boatload of money!

Change does not lead to more revenue. Marketing (extremeskins, alternate uniforms, expanding the stadium, Redskins Radio, etcetera) makes more money. He's not thinking of bringing in Fassel to make more money. He's considering Fassel because he feels it's possible he'll be a better HC than GW.

He's in it to win it. If he picks Fassel, it shows he has no clue. If he picks GW, it shows that he's learning.
i will say this......snyder just needs to pick the man he wants to do the job...he shouldnt pick williams because of the fans or the players because all he will do if the team struggles next year is say i told you so and then fire GW.....he will then bring in cowher for 10 mil a year and we will totally rebuild. so whoever he picks it needs to be who he wants so we can build a winning franchise and stop all this flip flopping
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:44 PM   #5
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OK people, chill on the Dan Snyder just wants to make money conspiracy theory. He's not effing around with coaches and free agents just to make more money. The answer is much more simple than that: he just doesn't understand football well enough.

He brought Gibbs in and gave him total control over personnel decisions. Two out of those four years, Gibbs took a very low-key approach to free agency. And during those years, we didn't have any coaching turnover. Amazingly, despite the relative stability, the team made a boatload of money!

Change does not lead to more revenue. Marketing (extremeskins, alternate uniforms, expanding the stadium, Redskins Radio, etcetera) makes more money. He's not thinking of bringing in Fassel to make more money. He's considering Fassel because he feels it's possible he'll be a better HC than GW.

He's in it to win it. If he picks Fassel, it shows he has no clue. If he picks GW, it shows that he's learning.
Schneed - I agree with you on Synders lack of football knowledge but as far as Synder and his desire to accumulate wealth - I know people who have worked for the guy and money is extremely imporatant to the guy and runs through his decision making on pretty much everything first and foremost. Case in point: People have mocked him for the Six Flags purchase when he actually did not purchase the company for the ongoing operations - he purchased Six Flags for the underlying real estate. Synder does not care one lick about family entertainment that Six Flags used to be known for - alll he cares about with Six Flags is how much capital appreciation the Real Estate is providing. The Redskins are no different - if they were not churning out millions in earnings every year he would be taking a different approach to reverse its trend. I am not trying to criticize Synder as a businessman - in fact I think most of his business making decisions are pretty descent - I am just disappointed Synder does not learn from the likes of a Bob Kraft and go out and get tried and true GM to run the football operations.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:45 PM   #6
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OK people, chill on the Dan Snyder just wants to make money conspiracy theory. He's not effing around with coaches and free agents just to make more money. The answer is much more simple than that: he just doesn't understand football well enough.

He brought Gibbs in and gave him total control over personnel decisions. Two out of those four years, Gibbs took a very low-key approach to free agency. And during those years, we didn't have any coaching turnover. Amazingly, despite the relative stability, the team made a boatload of money!

Change does not lead to more revenue. Marketing (extremeskins, alternate uniforms, expanding the stadium, Redskins Radio, etcetera) makes more money. He's not thinking of bringing in Fassel to make more money. He's considering Fassel because he feels it's possible he'll be a better HC than GW.

He's in it to win it. If he picks Fassel, it shows he has no clue. If he picks GW, it shows that he's learning.
Well your last statement is based off of nothing at this point because we do not know what is going on behind closed doors. Maybe GW wants to make total changes in the team other than the D which is his. We just do not know what is going on so we cannot say one is better than the other without knowing what actually facts. I can understand why people want to see the coach named but to draw all these conclusion about Snyder at this point is just not fair.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:51 PM   #7
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Well your last statement is based off of nothing at this point because we do not know what is going on behind closed doors. Maybe GW wants to make total changes in the team other than the D which is his. We just do not know what is going on so we cannot say one is better than the other without knowing what actually facts. I can understand why people want to see the coach named but to draw all these conclusion about Snyder at this point is just not fair.
Fair point. There could be circumstances, of which I'm not aware, that would make Fassel a better choice than GW. But if that were the case, it would be upsetting either way. Because even if Fassel is the better choice, it still means we're starting over, yet again, and Fassel will have to coach a group of players that really wanted GW.

Right decision or not, Fassel is going to cause a rift in the locker room. These players want GW. If they don't get him, I can see many of them getting very jaded.
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If there's ONE thing you can't criticize Dan Snyder, it's for trying to win. He tries. Hard. He'll shell out huge signing bonuses to get any player, he'll go more cash over cap than any owner in the league, he'll shatter the league's salary structure just to sign a key assistant coach, and he'll fly to any city at 12:01 am on the first day of free agency to land a key free agent.

He always TRIES. The effort cannot be questioned. The decision-making is where he deserves scrutiny. He rightly allowed Gibbs to call the shots, and consequently we've begun building something. Now the question is whether he's just going back to his old ways.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:43 PM   #9
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has this been verified? or just another one of the dumb rumors out there? remember how bad the giants offense was when Fassel was there? it down right stank. and Tiki Barber became an all pro AFTER Fassel left. just say no to J.F.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:46 PM   #10
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We will not win until Snyder sells the team. Believe it! See you guys in 2010. That is when he will probably sell the team and I will return to Washington Redskins as being my favorite football team. Until that I will only watch football to see all of the teams. This freaking pathetic.
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We will not win until Snyder sells the team. Believe it! See you guys in 2010. That is when he will probably sell the team and I will return to Washington Redskins as being my favorite football team. Until that I will only watch football to see all of the teams. This freaking pathetic.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:55 PM   #12
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im sure gibbs had no idea when he retired this would happen.....he probably would have just stayed on and take a bobby bowden role....and let the coordinators run it all
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Schneed:

I didn't say that Danny Boy created this "buzz" to make money. I said he did it to stroke his ego.

He also happens to be very interested in making money on the Redskins, but that's not why he finds ways to get himself positioned at the center of the stories about hiring coaches and signing flashy free agents. He does that for ego-strokes.
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I didn't say that Danny Boy created this "buzz" to make money. I said he did it to stroke his ego.

He also happens to be very interested in making money on the Redskins, but that's not why he finds ways to get himself positioned at the center of the stories about hiring coaches and signing flashy free agents. He does that for ego-strokes.
OK that's better than saying he does it to make money, and I can't rule you out as being right on that point. But to me the guy is about two things:

1) Making a ton of money
2) Trying to win games

The two goals are not exclusive of each other. Though to have as much success in business as he's had, he certainly would have a huge ego. I don't think he's manufacturing buzz on purpose just for ego reasons, I think he's just taking time to decide between Fassel and GW because he wants the guy who he thinks will win. Nevermind whether he knows what he's doing or not.
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Old 01-22-2008, 03:35 PM   #15
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If this were a Johnny Rockets, Six Flags, or Dick Clark Productions message board we can probably rightfully complain about Snyder only wanting to make money. Because that seems to be his main intent with those companies, to generate additional revenue streams and own multiple content distribution platforms.

That's the business side of Snyder. The Redskins are the fan side..which ultimately is his most basic problem. He's a fan with all the power to make changes. Imagine that any one of you here with all the knee-jerk posts you have every day, and then suddenly you had the power to make all those moves. That's a dangerous thing.
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