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Old 01-22-2008, 09:47 PM   #1
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Re: This puts our kicker into perspective

People who criticize Suisham need to remember how bad our kicking situation has been for about 15 years. Well he's not as good as the best in the league he is clearly solidly in the second tier and improving.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:54 PM   #2
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People who criticize Suisham need to remember how bad our kicking situation has been for about 15 years. Well he's not as good as the best in the league he is clearly solidly in the second tier and improving.
Suisham did pretty good. Ranked 13th, near the top of the middle of the pack. He got us something like 115 points. Not bad.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:51 PM   #3
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People who criticize Suisham need to remember how bad our kicking situation has been for about 15 years. Well he's not as good as the best in the league he is clearly solidly in the second tier and improving.
Exactly.

The people that want him gone are smoking crack IMO.
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Old 01-23-2008, 09:50 AM   #4
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Re: This puts our kicker into perspective

Obviously, it would have been great if he could have iced that kick. Still, I've never understood the hate (mostly from Cowboy fans?) for Suisham. He's turned out to be consistently decent, which, on a team in dire need of stability, ain't too shabby. I would like for him to get some distance on kickoffs (as mentioned above) or pick up a kick-off expert who could also step in if we needed a miracle 55 yarder.

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Exactly.

The people that want him gone are smoking crack IMO.
Amy Winehouse wants him gone?
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:10 PM   #5
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Re: This puts our kicker into perspective

well...in spite of and occasional miss, I feel somewhat vindicated for my proclamation below...
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:56 PM   #6
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well his freaking range is like 48 yards. he made a 50 or 52 yarder once but its a crime that a kickers range in the nfl is 48 yards. another thing just common knowledge tells you that the closer you get to you range the more you will miss so if he isnt consistantly making 40 some yarders then we are in trouble. gives us very little room for error.
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:11 AM   #7
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Re: This puts our kicker into perspective

suisham did okay this year but he needs to get more consistent with the 45 yarders and in and get longer on the kickoffs. i think we need to bring in competition this pre-season, it doesnt hurt and might make suisham better in the process.

this has been said before, the better nfl kickers get more oppotunities 50 yards and out then suisham so comparing accuracy stats is alil skewed. anybody know how many 50 yd plus field goals attempts the better nfl kickers tried this year compared to shazaams 2?

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Old 01-23-2008, 12:24 AM   #8
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Well if we have a chance to bring in a better kicker than Suisham I`m all for it but you guys are comparing him to people who play for other teams! Do you compare Jason Campbell to Peyton Manning or the alternative, which is probably Rex Grossman. That's not good enough. There are better kickers out there, they just aren't signed with us. Getting a good kicker is not so easy, as the last 15 years of our franchise prove.
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You can't judge a kicker on one kick. Even the great ones miss chip shots from time to time. Overall Suisham is pretty solid. Given the mess our kicking situation has been for years now we should be pleased with his performance this year.
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Old 01-23-2008, 10:31 AM   #10
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You can't judge a kicker on one kick. Even the great ones miss chip shots from time to time. Overall Suisham is pretty solid. Given the mess our kicking situation has been for years now we should be pleased with his performance this year.
You summed up my exact thoughts. Suisham is not great, but he's the best kicker we've had since Chip Lohmiller.
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Old 01-23-2008, 10:36 AM   #11
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You can't judge a kicker on one kick. Even the great ones miss chip shots from time to time. Overall Suisham is pretty solid. Given the mess our kicking situation has been for years now we should be pleased with his performance this year.
agreed. i think you keep him- but i'd not be surprised to see tough competition in training camp.

apples and oranges (to a degree) i know- but didn't scott norwood go to the pro-bowl the year he missed "the kick?"
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Old 01-23-2008, 11:03 AM   #12
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I still don't understand this thinking that Suisham needs competition in camp.

He was 29/35 (29 FGs was tied for 5th best in the NFL) and was 14th in the NFL in scoring with 116 points.

And for that he needs to be challenged for his job??
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Old 01-23-2008, 11:23 AM   #13
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Re: This puts our kicker into perspective

Adam Vinatieri was 23/29 on FG's this year, 6 misses like Suisham but in 6 fewer attempts as well. He also missed a 29 yarder to lose a game for the colts in week 11. He finished tied for 11th in points with 118, two more than Suisham's 116. I doubt most on here would say a guy like Vinatieri needed some competition in camp. Just some more perspective.
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Old 01-23-2008, 11:55 AM   #14
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Adam Vinatieri was 23/29 on FG's this year, 6 misses like Suisham but in 6 fewer attempts as well. He also missed a 29 yarder to lose a game for the colts in week 11. He finished tied for 11th in points with 118, two more than Suisham's 116. I doubt most on here would say a guy like Vinatieri needed some competition in camp. Just some more perspective.
Yep sounds like he needs some stiff competition. The old man is slacking off.
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Old 01-23-2008, 01:31 PM   #15
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I still don't understand this thinking that Suisham needs competition in camp.

He was 29/35 (29 FGs was tied for 5th best in the NFL) and was 14th in the NFL in scoring with 116 points.

And for that he needs to be challenged for his job??
We could use a guy who could kick the ball past the ten yard line on kickoffs.

And so could the Colts. They even play in a dome.

But if you isolate field goal kicking (which you aren't supposed to do unless your punter handles KO duties or you have a kickoff specialist), Suisham was as good as one could have wanted this season.
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