Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies

[SFREDSKIN]

If Fossil is announced as HC tomorrow, it just might be the the lowest of the low in Redskins history. I might not watch another game until Snyder sells the team. Do the right thing, hire GW. Don't be a stupid F...!!!!!

[GMScud]

Latest from JLC on Redskins Insider. Looks like this is gonna happen people.

Posted at 9:10 PM ET, 01/22/2008

Fassel and Rex Ryan

Continues to look like a pair of former Ravens could be perched here in a matter of time.
I keep hearing that Fassel is in a great position to get this job, and when it all hits the fan that former Baltimore DC Rex Ryan would replace Gregg Williams if it goes down this way. That is the hot rumor at the Senior Bowl, and Rex knows Jim and Vinny Cerrato has ties to Rex. Makes sense. So you would be looking at major overhauls to the staff.
Snyder and Cerrato are mulling this over tonight but I would not be surprised to see someone get an offer Wed. At this point I am told the Redskins have still said nothing to Williams and the rest of the coaches and all signs pointing to Fassel. Snyder could always go the other way, and, this organization is capable of anything, but there is lots of angst among the players and coaches - especially those down at the Senior Bowl in Mobile.

[T.O.Killa]

Could Suanders be the offensive cordinator, for this pair?

[SFREDSKIN]

Can someone send an e-mail to JLC and have him post a poll of who the fans want as HC (Fossil or GW) so Dan (Dumb Shit) Snyder can read what the fans want.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Can someone send an e-mail to JLC and have him post a poll of who the fans want as HC (Fossil or GW) so Dan (Dumb Shit) Snyder can read what the fans want.

Yeah well, the fans also don't want to pay out the ying yang for tickets, parking, food and beer, and The Danny doesn't give two shits about that.

I'm really aggravated right now. This whole situation is baffling.

I just don't understand. According to PFT, most league sources thought this guy didn't have a prayer at another head coaching job. I mean, if he was even thought of as a remotely decent coach anymore, wouldn't he at least have been a position coach somewhere in the league this season?

Meanwhile, my two closest friends are big Skins haters (NY natives, Giants/Jets/Yankee fans- I know), and I'm getting one text message after another totally mocking our situation. I feel like throwing my phone into a wall and following it with my head.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I feel like throwing my phone into a wall and following it with my head.

LOL, now thats poetic, but yeah man I know how you feel.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Latest from JLC on Redskins Insider. Looks like this is gonna happen people.

Posted at 9:10 PM ET, 01/22/2008

Fassel and Rex Ryan

Continues to look like a pair of former Ravens could be perched here in a matter of time.
I keep hearing that Fassel is in a great position to get this job, and when it all hits the fan that former Baltimore DC Rex Ryan would replace Gregg Williams if it goes down this way. That is the hot rumor at the Senior Bowl, and Rex knows Jim and Vinny Cerrato has ties to Rex. Makes sense. So you would be looking at major overhauls to the staff.
Snyder and Cerrato are mulling this over tonight but I would not be surprised to see someone get an offer Wed. At this point I am told the Redskins have still said nothing to Williams and the rest of the coaches and all signs pointing to Fassel. Snyder could always go the other way, and, this organization is capable of anything, but there is lots of angst among the players and coaches - especially those down at the Senior Bowl in Mobile.

Doesn't Rex Ryan run the 3-4 defense. Talk about rebuilding changes that need to be done to the team as a whole if Fassel/Ryan are hired.

Snyder is a lame excuse for a symbolic figurehead of an organization. He said at the Gibbs presser that he wants stability and likes the roster as is. He pulls the trigger on this and all he is doing is lying to the very fan base that makes the Redskins as profitable as they are.

I just know when I wake up tomorrow that I'll see Fassel being introduced as head coach. Can you imagine how hositle that conference is going to be?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If Fossil is announced as HC tomorrow, it just might be the the lowest of the low in Redskins history. I might not watch another game until Snyder sells the team. Do the right thing, hire GW. Don't be a stupid F...!!!!!

Get a grip man. This isn't the end of the world. What is so great about Williams other than "continuity"

Both are solid choices. Again, I'd prefer Williams (mainly just so people would shut up already), but if we hire Fassel as our head coach, go back to a West Coast offense that Campbell is supposedly more comfortable in and restore our winning ways...well all these "the world is over" posters will look pretty dumb.

This isn't Rich Kotite we're talking about. Let's give the team a chance

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Get a grip man. This isn't the end of the world. What is so great about Williams other than "continuity"

Both are solid choices. Again, I'd prefer Williams (mainly just so people would shut up already), but if we hire Fassel as our head coach, go back to a West Coast offense that Campbell is supposedly more comfortable in and restore our winning ways...well all these "the world is over" posters will look pretty dumb.

This isn't Rich Kotite we're talking about. Let's give the team a chance

You bring up a good point. I know that Williams is fan favorite. The way he dealt with the Taylor situation was excellent. And the players love him too. These guys have been through hell and back together. This locker room has bonded together in a special way. And the fans feel that. They love that (me included). Obviously that lends to how much support Gregg is getting. That said, he only has two years of head coaching experience, and his football acumen outside of the realm of defense is very unproven.

All I can think of is Williams went into his interviews and presented the direction he wanted to take the Redskins, and that direction must have been very different from Vinny and Danny's ideas.

JLC mentions is his most recent article that Gibbs privately endorsed Williams to Snyder. Snyder loves Gibbs and signs off on almost anything he says. Something must have gone down that really soured The Danny on GW.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You bring up a good point. I know that Williams is fan favorite. The way he dealt with the Taylor situation was excellent. And the players love him too. This locker room has bonded together in a special way. These guys have been through hell and back together. And the fans feel that. They love that (me included). Obviously that lends to how much support Gregg is getting. That said, he only has two years of head coaching experience, and his football acumen outside of the realm of defense is very unproven.

All I can think of is Williams went into his interviews and presented the direction he wanted to take the Redskins, and that direction must have been very different from Vinny and Danny's ideas.

You make some valid points but I trust GW's direction better than i do VC's or DS's direction. That's the scary point. I don't trust our FO!!!

Ownership can do whatever they want, but it's just a little disappointing. They talk about true redskins, history, character, family, etc til it comes down to it and you don't hire the BEST candidate in house. You hire Jim Fassel? Throw away 4 years of building a team. Now don't get me wrong i am of the opinion that changes are needed on our team, but let GW do his thing.

This is why I tend to dislike the Redskins FO. It's not a well built machine. We're a coaching carousel. We make FA blunders. Yes, we've done some good things, but who here thinks we have more young talent than our nfc east foes? Gmen...no. Cboys....no. Eagles...maybe???

Jim Fassel if hired won't make it 4 years...make that 3 years. Oh yeah, Rex Ryan, you'll no longer have the talent that you had on your D. Now go out and have a top 10 D consistently. Good luck w/ that.

Why not go for the better candidate who happens to be 8 years younger than JF, i believe. Why not try to have a coach around for a while?

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If Fossil is announced as HC tomorrow, it just might be the the lowest of the low in Redskins history. I might not watch another game until Snyder sells the team. Do the right thing, hire GW. Don't be a stupid F...!!!!!

Overreact much?

If we get Fassel (which is basically a lock at this point) and Ryan, we are in no worse shape than if we kept GW and hired a new OC to replace Saunders.. The only true way to maintain 'continuity' would be if Gibbs never left. For all that we thought GW may keep the same, we truly have no idea what his plans were. Maybe he wanted to move training camp to Calabasas, CA. Maybe he wanted to switch to a 3-3-5 defense. Maybe he wants to hire Mike Martz away from SF to be the OC.. We have no clue but we're automatically sold on him because he 'maintains continuity'?

As I posted earlier, Pittsburgh changed head coach and OC and made the playoffs.. SD changed head coach, OC and DC and made the playoffs.. Dallas changed head coach, OC and DC and made the playoffs.. In the playoffs NYG, SD, Indy & Sea all had coaches who had previously led another team to the playoffs.. The 2 Super Bowl coaches are 'retreads' that I'm sure were not warmly embraced by their fan bases upon hire..

Let's take the 'post loss' stance when it comes to posting.. Take a few deep breaths, a walk around the house and use logic rather than emotion..

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Overreact much?

If we get Fassel (which is basically a lock at this point) and Ryan, we are in no worse shape than if we kept GW and hired a new OC to replace Saunders.. The only true way to maintain 'continuity' would be if Gibbs never left. For all that we thought GW may keep the same, we truly have no idea what his plans were. Maybe he wanted to move training camp to Calabasas, CA. Maybe he wanted to switch to a 3-3-5 defense. Maybe he wants to hire Mike Martz away from SF to be the OC.. We have no clue but we're automatically sold on him because he 'maintains continuity'?

As I posted earlier, Pittsburgh changed head coach and OC and made the playoffs.. SD changed head coach, OC and DC and made the playoffs.. Dallas changed head coach, OC and DC and made the playoffs.. In the playoffs NYG, SD, Indy & Sea all had coaches who had previously led another team to the playoffs.. The 2 Super Bowl coaches are 'retreads' that I'm sure were not warmly embraced by their fan bases upon hire..

Let's take the 'post loss' stance when it comes to posting.. Take a few deep breaths, a walk around the house and use logic rather than emotion..

Excellent post. That's a very good perspective. I totally agree, as I just posted about an hour ago, that Gregg could have had a totally different view of the team's future than Danny/Vinny expected.