Understanding the Issues 2008: Health Care

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

It would have been interesting for us if you hadn't put names next to the plans and let us pick blindly (without bias?). May have been eye opening to some.

I wanted to do that, and probably will with future issues. But there was just so much more information than the bullet points I presented that I felt I was going to have to link somewhere.

Next time you and I can create a page that has all the platforms but no names.

[mheisig]

Why is John Edwards in there twice?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Why is John Edwards in there twice?

typo. thanks for the catch

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

typo. thanks for the catch

I thought you were just really trying to push Edwards as the right candidate

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Why is John Edwards in there twice?

Well since I'm an idiot and I responded to something that was already answered an hour ago....

[DynamiteRave]

Nobody's voted for Guliani! Where's the love?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Nobody's voted for Guliani! Where's the love?

Didn't you get the memo? He changed his name to 911.

[firstdown]

You know I always hear these nightmares about health ins. co and trying to get stuff covered but I have never had an issue with any of them. I my daughter while at college came down with this rare blood disorder (she is just fine now) the doctors tried several things and nothing worked. They decided to give this one treatment through I/V which cost $5,000 per bag and forgot to get approval from the ins. co.. They sent a rejection letter back for a claim of $36,000 because the doctor did not get prior approval and this was still in the exspermental stage. Doctor wrote them back and paid the bill in full.

[Campbell17]

Im a republican, but Obama seems like a man among boys, so i am siding democrat. I dont care about Hillary, she is nothing like her husband, and is simply unelectable.

[Beemnseven]

With any government run health care system, you should expect all the compassion of the IRS and the efficiency of FEMA.

Just walk into any post office and ask yourself if that's the environment you'd like to find yourself in when you have to go to the doctor.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

With any government run health care system, you should expect all the compassion of the IRS and the efficiency of FEMA.

Just walk into any post office and ask yourself if that's the environment you'd like to find yourself in when you have to go to the doctor.

People don't want to hear this argument even though it is the best one out there. Can anyone name a major government program that runs well? And I mean well by quality and efficiency. All I get when I make this argument is "Well market forces aren't working and it's so broke that someone just needs to take it over" Nevermind that the government has empirically showed that it can't ever fix anything. They just make it worse usually.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

With any government run health care system, you should expect all the compassion of the IRS and the efficiency of FEMA.

Just walk into any post office and ask yourself if that's the environment you'd like to find yourself in when you have to go to the doctor.

Best post on here so far.

Name one government agency that you've ever had a positive experience from a service and quality standpoint. USPS, IRS, your local DMV office, FEMA, the list goes on. I've worked for city government, my dad worked for the federal government for 30 years. Having also worked in the private sector, everything I know about ANY government agency leads me to believe that they are almost universally inefficient, mismanaged and miserable places to work.

I just don't understand this incredible desire people have for socialism. Capitalism works, folks. Let the free market do it's thing and pare this massive beast of a government down.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Best post on here so far.

Name one government agency that you've ever had a positive experience from a service and quality standpoint. USPS, IRS, your local DMV office, FEMA, the list goes on. I've worked for city government, my dad worked for the federal government for 30 years. Having also worked in the private sector, everything I know about ANY government agency leads me to believe that they are almost universally inefficient, mismanaged and miserable places to work.

I just don't understand this incredible desire people have for socialism. Capitalism works, folks. Let the free market do it's thing and pare this massive beast of a government down.

this is the issue. free market with health care isn't working. and the costs are skyrocketing. people are ready to try something new. even if it means the government gets involved

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by dmek25

this is the issue. free market with health care isn't working. and the costs are skyrocketing. people are ready to try something new. even if it means the government gets involved

None of the democrats are doing anything to address the rising costs. They're all interested in raising more tax revenue in order to pay those exhorbitant costs. That's not a fix, that's a bandaid. It gives everyone coverage, but it still means the coverage is going to continue getting more and more expensive.

McCain is the only one with a plan to actually curtail the growth in healthcare expenses.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by dmek25

this is the issue. free market with health care isn't working. and the costs are skyrocketing. people are ready to try something new. even if it means the government gets involved

That's because we haven't really tried it.

We don't truly have a "free" market system here either. Government has its hands all over it.