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[redsk1]

I was skeptical when we signed Brunell for HOW MUCH MONEY? This guy couldn't win the starting job at Jacksonville? He was a great player, was. This is why Dan S. is not a great owner he overpays players that used to be good. He has done it for years now. What happened to getting your own talent? Look at the most successful teams in the last 5 years...Anyways, the offense is dreadful. We played the BEARS and almost lost w/ our defense giving up 3 points!!!!!!

[WashingtonWarrior]

It was Joe Gibbs, ALL JOE GIBBS, who wanted Mark Brunnell. Please believe that. Im so sick of some of you Redskin fans blaming D. Snyder for all our faults. Granted we should have been had a GM but I would much rather have a owner who will Spend than one who will not. Alot of you people listen to these commentators on TV and you must realize these people dont even watch all the games before commenting. Alot of them go by what others say. In other words they no Crap. Realize this, Danny loves his team like a fan, like me and you, and he is just trying to do whatever he can do to Win......

[SkinsRock]

Originally Posted by WashingtonWarrior

It was Joe Gibbs, ALL JOE GIBBS, who wanted Mark Brunnell. Please believe that. Im so sick of some of you Redskin fans blaming D. Snyder for all our faults. Granted we should have been had a GM but I would much rather have a owner who will Spend than one who will not. Alot of you people listen to these commentators on TV and you must realize these people dont even watch all the games before commenting. Alot of them go by what others say. In other words they no Crap. Realize this, Danny loves his team like a fan, like me and you, and he is just trying to do whatever he can do to Win......

First of all: Welcome to the Warpath! The BEST Skins fan site!

Second of all: Thank you. I have said the same thing numerous times, but some people just seem to have it out for Snyder, so anything bad is his fault, and anything good isn't, which is a load of crap. Yeah, the man has made his share of mistakes, but he brought Gibbs back...enough said.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by WashingtonWarrior

It was Joe Gibbs, ALL JOE GIBBS, who wanted Mark Brunnell. Please believe that. Im so sick of some of you Redskin fans blaming D. Snyder for all our faults. Granted we should have been had a GM but I would much rather have a owner who will Spend than one who will not. Alot of you people listen to these commentators on TV and you must realize these people dont even watch all the games before commenting. Alot of them go by what others say. In other words they no Crap. Realize this, Danny loves his team like a fan, like me and you, and he is just trying to do whatever he can do to Win......

Welcome to the warpath, warrior. Nice first post. I agree with everything you said.

The Danny has made some mistakes, but we can't blame him for everything. Gibbs went out and got Brunell himself. All Danny did was sign the check.

[d151b]

brunell misses the easiest passes i've ever seen! EVER. he almost threw about 7 or 8 picks that were dropped by the defense. oh, and lets not forget the, what has become standard, brunell giving the other team another touchdown on defense. absolutely UNacceptable!

i believe, please correct me if i'm wrong, that brunell has given the opposing defenses more scores than our offense. even if it's close, that's friggin' unbeleivably BAD!! brunell has got to go.

speaking of paying people, McCants(tied for most td catches last year) signed a 5 million dollar deal in the offseason and he hasn't even played a down this year! What's wrong with this picture???????????????

[Redskins_P]

Here is Mike Wilbon and his weekly chat on the WPost.com talking about who we should be playing at QB.

Washington D.C.: Is it just me, or does it seem like Mark Brunell cannot throw an entire game? I think he tries a couple deep throws in the first half just to keep the defense honest, but as the game progresses his arm is thrown out. Gibbs should get Ramsey ready these two weeks so we can have a decent passing attack. That is the strenght of the offense, our receivers.

Michael Wilbon: Okay, as I look at the question que, I realize about 30 percent of these questions concern 1)Brunell 2)the offense 3)playing the third-string guy.
So, we'll do One Big Quarterback answer right here.
For starters, Brunell ain't what he used to be when he was a strong-armed, mobile machine of a quarterback who was leading Jacksonville to two AFC Championship games. At that time he was sort of a poor man's Steve Young, and I don't mean a real poor man. The guy was a stud. But injuries have taken away most of his physical attributes.
Now, I watch a lot of football and I know some stuff independently. But largely, I rely on listening to smart players and ex-players, coaches and ex-coaches...and I've had defensive players from the Giants, Browns and Bears tell me that this Brunell ain't the guy they played against six and seven years ago. They say they prepare, during the week, to stuff Clinton Portis because they see on film that Brunell cannot get the ball downfield with any accuracy or consistency.
Again, these are defensive players I trust telling me this, and in one case a coach.
Now, do I think Ramsey is the Big Answer?
I don't. The kid's got a huge arm and a huge amount of courage, the way he stands in there. But, opposing players don't think he has any feel for the game and they think he holds onto the ball way, way, way too long.
Why do you think Gibbs was intent on getting a quarterback when he came in. What, Gibbs didn't see the same stuff on film these defensive coaches saw?
Yes, I'd be getting Hasselbeck ready. I would. He's shown himself to be fairly mobile, like his brother. And while he doesn't have a cannon, he appears to be fairly accurate.
Having said all that, I wouldn't do anything going into the bye-week and coming off a victory but put Brunell back in there...I'd see what a week off and a week to prepare for another ordinary team--Green Bay--will do for Brunell. He's not that old, at 34. But maybe the injuries took more a toll than many folks (including me) expected.
By the way, Riggins says that Ramsey would be more certain of himself if he wasn't looking over his shoulder at Brunell or anybody else. Perhaps we'll see. Until then, it's defense, defense, defense and Clinton Portis...

[backrow]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Here is Mike Wilbon and his weekly chat on the WPost.com talking about who we should be playing at QB.

Washington D.C.: Is it just me, or does it seem like Mark Brunell cannot throw an entire game? I think he tries a couple deep throws in the first half just to keep the defense honest, but as the game progresses his arm is thrown out. Gibbs should get Ramsey ready these two weeks so we can have a decent passing attack. That is the strenght of the offense, our receivers.

Michael Wilbon: Okay, as I look at the question que, I realize about 30 percent of these questions concern 1)Brunell 2)the offense 3)playing the third-string guy.
So, we'll do One Big Quarterback answer right here.
For starters, Brunell ain't what he used to be when he was a strong-armed, mobile machine of a quarterback who was leading Jacksonville to two AFC Championship games. At that time he was sort of a poor man's Steve Young, and I don't mean a real poor man. The guy was a stud. But injuries have taken away most of his physical attributes.
Now, I watch a lot of football and I know some stuff independently. But largely, I rely on listening to smart players and ex-players, coaches and ex-coaches...and I've had defensive players from the Giants, Browns and Bears tell me that this Brunell ain't the guy they played against six and seven years ago. They say they prepare, during the week, to stuff Clinton Portis because they see on film that Brunell cannot get the ball downfield with any accuracy or consistency.
Again, these are defensive players I trust telling me this, and in one case a coach.
Now, do I think Ramsey is the Big Answer?
I don't. The kid's got a huge arm and a huge amount of courage, the way he stands in there. But, opposing players don't think he has any feel for the game and they think he holds onto the ball way, way, way too long.
Why do you think Gibbs was intent on getting a quarterback when he came in. What, Gibbs didn't see the same stuff on film these defensive coaches saw?
Yes, I'd be getting Hasselbeck ready. I would. He's shown himself to be fairly mobile, like his brother. And while he doesn't have a cannon, he appears to be fairly accurate.
Having said all that, I wouldn't do anything going into the bye-week and coming off a victory but put Brunell back in there...I'd see what a week off and a week to prepare for another ordinary team--Green Bay--will do for Brunell. He's not that old, at 34. But maybe the injuries took more a toll than many folks (including me) expected.
By the way, Riggins says that Ramsey would be more certain of himself if he wasn't looking over his shoulder at Brunell or anybody else. Perhaps we'll see. Until then, it's defense, defense, defense and Clinton Portis...

However, I do not agree with Wilbon's assessment of Hasselbeck! At all! The man is not an NFL caliber QB!

[Tahoe Skin]

Originally Posted by WashingtonWarrior

It was Joe Gibbs, ALL JOE GIBBS, who wanted Mark Brunnell. Please believe that. Im so sick of some of you Redskin fans blaming D. Snyder for all our faults. Granted we should have been had a GM but I would much rather have a owner who will Spend than one who will not. Alot of you people listen to these commentators on TV and you must realize these people dont even watch all the games before commenting. Alot of them go by what others say. In other words they no Crap. Realize this, Danny loves his team like a fan, like me and you, and he is just trying to do whatever he can do to Win......

Well said!

[offiss]

Ramsey is smarter, as well he's more of a natural QB than any QB Gibb's has had, other than Joey T., to say this kid can't learn, or progress, is a joke, I believe that Ramsey will make mistakes when he get's in there, but he will also make big play's for us as well, and with our D we should still be in much better shape at the end of the game under Ramsey, than with Brunell, and with every game Ramsey will become more comfortable, and commit less mistakes as he learn's, but for us to go forward we need Ramsey in there!

Gibb's has a tough pill to swallow right now, benching Brunell is pretty much admiting we made a huge mistake with him, but not benching him is only compounding the problem.