Ocho Cinco In B&G

[MTK]

CJ is starting to go off the deep end. He really needs to reel things back in a bit and cool down.

[ksmitty7723]

Yes he is beginning to go alittle over the top, but we need that here in Washington! Alittle confidence, not cockiness. I was so sick of hearing the same robotic answers from Gibbs, staff, and players the last four players!

[MTK]

What Johnson is doing right now is pouting like a 5 year old. Sorry but that's definitely not needed here. He really needs to grow up and handle his business like a professional. What he's doing is inexcusable.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What Johnson is doing right now is pouting like a 5 year old. Sorry but that's definitely not needed here. He really needs to grow up and handle his business like a professional. What he's doing is inexcusable.

I agree...and what do you think will happen if he comes here and doesn't get near 80 or 90 catches? Same ole chad will show up. No thanks.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I agree...and what do you think will happen if he comes here and doesn't get near 80 or 90 catches? Same ole chad will show up. No thanks.

I would take him. Thats 78 or 88 more catches then Lloyd. Plus he has good hands and can catch the ball.

[ksmitty7723]

Look who his agent is---Drew Rosenhaus! His agent needs to help him and lead him in the right direction. I think Drew's past has shown that he is about as bad as his clients!

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What Johnson is doing right now is pouting like a 5 year old. Sorry but that's definitely not needed here. He really needs to grow up and handle his business like a professional. What he's doing is inexcusable.

I've felt this way about him the last couple years. Maybe there is something personal going on behind the scenes in cincy, but it looks to have all the makings of a TO type regression. He's not at that level now, but his behavior shows signs of him getting worse by the year, just as TO did until he had no more bridges to burn.

IMO, pro bowler or not, we don't need to make a deal for this guy.

[Monkeydad]

Sure, let's bring him in. We haven't had a Michael Westbrook incident since, well...Michael Westbrook was here.

Think I'm overreacting? Johnson shoved around some team employee and "stared him down" a few days ago.

He would be a horrible fit. We play as a team, a very closely-knit team without drama. He plays to promote himself over everyone else on the field. If you think Lloyd was bad, bring this nutjob in.

I had thought about it until I heard his agent was Rosenhaus. No thank you.

Yes, he's talented, but Cincy doesn't seem to be benefiting much from his abilities with all of his distractions. Neither would we.


We have enough good WRs. Moss, Randel El, McCardell can still play, Caldwell can haul in passes with those big eyeballs and 6'5" Mix has had success with Campbell before and looks promising.

Other positions need upgraded far more than WR.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Buster

Sure, let's bring him in. We haven't had a Michael Westbrook incident since, well...Michael Westbrook was here.

Think I'm overreacting? Johnson shoved around some team employee and "stared him down" a few days ago.

He would be a horrible fit. We play as a team, a very closely-knit team without drama. He plays to promote himself over everyone else on the field. If you think Lloyd was bad, bring this nutjob in.

I had thought about it until I heard his agent was Rosenhaus. No thank you.

Yes, he's talented, but Cincy doesn't seem to be benefiting much from his abilities with all of his distractions. Neither would we.


We have enough good WRs. Moss, Randel El, McCardell can still play, Caldwell can haul in passes with those big eyeballs and 6'5" Mix has had success with Campbell before and looks promising.

Other positions need upgraded far more than WR.

McCardell can still play till his knees give out on him. Old man is good, but then the key word is old. The guy's almost 40, he can't have but so much gas left in the tank.

I feel as if people are a product of their environment and obviously CJ doesn't like his. If that's the case, he needs a move.

TO was a complete headcase (and still is) but is MUCH better now that he's in Dallas. Same goes with Randy Moss.

I think CJ just needs to find a different team (hopefully the Skins) and with a disciplined coach and team, he'll do fine.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

McCardell can still play till his knees give out on him. Old man is good, but then the key word is old. The guy's almost 40, he can't have but so much gas left in the tank.

I feel as if people are a product of their environment and obviously CJ doesn't like his. If that's the case, he needs a move.

TO was a complete headcase (and still is) but is MUCH better now that he's in Dallas. Same goes with Randy Moss.

I think CJ just needs to find a different team (hopefully the Skins) and with a disciplined coach and team, he'll do fine.

The problem w/giving these guys a 'pass' (I know that you don't mean it to be that extreme) for their environment is that THEY screwed up their environment. Look at the 49ers & iggles before TO's selfishness.

Both TO & Moss had hit bottom in a way & burned their bridges to the point that only a couple teams were interested in them despite their great ability. CJ still has a lot of bridges left to burn before he's to that point, I just hope he doesn't do so here.

[MTK]

Have we forgotten about Caldwell already?

I'm not saying he's a superstar but he was pretty solid down the stretch and looked like a promising player for us as a #2/#3 type of WR.

[Beemnseven]

Yeah, Caldwell really stepped up and helped us out when we needed it. They should make it a point to sign him back.

Still, he won't make the difference between an explosive offense and what we've had for the past two years. We still need a game-breaker along with Moss.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Yeah, Caldwell really stepped up and helped us out when we needed it. They should make it a point to sign him back.

Still, he won't make the difference between an explosive offense and what we've had for the past two years. We still need a game-breaker along with Moss.

I definitely agree.

At one time I was in favor of making a move for CJ but with his recent antics I'm off his bandwagon. You can never have enough play makers that's for sure. I think we need to try to address this in the draft though.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Have we forgotten about Caldwell already?

I'm not saying he's a superstar but he was pretty solid down the stretch and looked like a promising player for us as a #2/#3 type of WR.

Caldwell? What about McCardell?
Sure Caldwell had a couple decent catches, but McCardell really stepped up when we needed him. Sure he's old, but I'd like to see him back next year. Caldwell took a long time before he made an impact for us, and that was slight.

[DiehardSkin88]

Chad Johnson would not be a problem here. Portis and moss are friends with chad johnson, he also happened to be friends with Sean Taylor. Portis and Moss would keep him in check, he just doesnt like anybody in cincy.