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Old 02-01-2008, 08:42 AM   #1
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It was a fairly civil debate. I think Obama took home with him the issue on the war. He kept reinforcing that it was more important to be right on Day 1 of voting, then being present... or something to that effect.

He basically alluded to the fact that Hilary voted to give GB authority to go to war, and Obama was opposed from the start.

They battled on health care.

Obama said it wasn't fair to mandate health care, but Hilary pointed out that he was mandating it for children, so what's the difference. Basically a lot of back and forth on some of the same issues.

I kind of was in a cough medicine induced coma during most of the debate, so if I didn't get it all... someone else please fill in.
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Old 02-01-2008, 10:41 AM   #2
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It was a fairly civil debate. I think Obama took home with him the issue on the war. He kept reinforcing that it was more important to be right on Day 1 of voting, then being present... or something to that effect.

He basically alluded to the fact that Hilary voted to give GB authority to go to war, and Obama was opposed from the start.

They battled on health care.

Obama said it wasn't fair to mandate health care, but Hilary pointed out that he was mandating it for children, so what's the difference. Basically a lot of back and forth on some of the same issues.

I kind of was in a cough medicine induced coma during most of the debate, so if I didn't get it all... someone else please fill in.
I like Obama much more than Hillary but his holier than thou routine about this war is tiresome. Nobody at the time was screaming too much about this and I would staunchly argue that being right on Day 1 is not what is important. It is being right NOW. Because NOW is the only thing that can be affected. Day 1 is gone and past. Get over it. Let's not focus on Day 1, let's focus on solutions to the problem.

And can anyone honestly say they think he wouldn't have voted for the war at the time? I have serious doubts about that. He seems like a team player and would have boarded that ship along with a lot of other Dems.
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:25 AM   #3
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Re: Democratic Debate

Did I miss something? Is Jason Alexander running for president?
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:45 AM   #4
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I like Obama much more than Hillary but his holier than thou routine about this war is tiresome. Nobody at the time was screaming too much about this and I would staunchly argue that being right on Day 1 is not what is important. It is being right NOW. Because NOW is the only thing that can be affected. Day 1 is gone and past. Get over it. Let's not focus on Day 1, let's focus on solutions to the problem.

And can anyone honestly say they think he wouldn't have voted for the war at the time? I have serious doubts about that. He seems like a team player and would have boarded that ship along with a lot of other Dems.
Well 21 of 50 Dems in the Senate voted against the resolution authorizing the use of the military force. Moreover, Obama did make public statements denouncing the resolution. So, I think it's fair to say he would have voted with the other 21 Dems to reject the resolution. Moreover, I do think his vote is significant insofar as it demonstrates his past judgment, which itself is indicative of how he will act in the future.

For the record, I support the surge and oppose Obama's withdrawal plans. So, I'm not biased in favor of Obama when it comes to his views on Iraq.
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