Spagnuolo is looking good (Defense)

[Dirtbag59]

I think the irony of this situation is that people don't realize is that Coughlin is an Offensive Coach. And while that itself doesn't prove that an offensive or defenisve HC is the best decision. It does endorse that balance or unstopable god-like ability on one of side of the ball is necessary to win a championship. And just so you know, the second one is extremely rare, with the last team displaying that quality being the Baltimore Ravens.

With that said I believe that hiring Spags would shift the balance to the defensive side of the ball, especially pairing him with Blache, who by the way was promised complete auntomony over the defense. While a guy like Mooch or Fassel along with Zorn would help bring balance to the Skins IMO.

[WillH]

Im down with Spags or Mooch, and wouldn't be completely disappointed with Fassel. But you can't give a cool nickname to him. . . sooo

[redsk1]

While I agree that 1 year as a DC doesn't make a coach, from all reports the guy is pretty impressive. He spent 7 years (i believe, w/out looking it up) working as a position coach under Jim Johnson (Eagles). So, it's not as if he's a newbie. So i wouldn't be that upset.

Now, why would we bring him in when we already have a DC in Blache? Maybe Spags has a problem w/ it and Danny Boy would just let Blache have a DC title for kicks-like last year. I just don't know anymore.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by redsk1

While I agree that 1 year as a DC doesn't make a coach, from all reports the guy is pretty impressive. He spent 7 years (i believe, w/out looking it up) working as a position coach under Jim Johnson (Eagles). So, it's not as if he's a newbie. So i wouldn't be that upset.

Now, why would we bring him in when we already have a DC in Blache? Maybe Spags has a problem w/ it and Danny Boy would just let Blache have a DC title for kicks-like last year. I just don't know anymore.

That part doesn't make much sense to me either. You would think that Spags would be heavily involved with the D if he came here, and with Blache I'm not sure he would be very happy to have a hands on HC. Unless their defensive philosophies are similar... which I really don't know.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That part doesn't make much sense to me either. You would think that Spags would be heavily involved with the D if he came here, and with Blache I'm not sure he would be very happy to have a hands on HC. Unless their defensive philosophies are similar... which I really don't know.

Unless Lil' Danny doesn't care who the new coach wants as a D-coordinator.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Unless Lil' Danny doesn't care who the new coach wants as a D-coordinator.

Well it really wouldn't matter what Snyder wants, the decision would have to come from Spagnuolo as to whether he would be comfortable with that setup or not. Or maybe he's already approved the setup. Who knows?

[LandrySlice]

Well it has become clear to me that with the groundwork that Coach Gibbs had laid down for the Skins, we need a young coach who will stay in town for a while and continue to build upon what Gibbs started. I fully support Spags for H.C or a young coach that many of you have never heard of out of Alexandria VA, named Greg Novis.

[Skinny Tee]

Snyder always wants the flavor of the month. I think the Super Bowl outcome is going to incite Snyder to seriously consider Spagnuolo as HC.

After watching what they did I don't know if I mind so much. Granted much of their pressure on defense is attributed to their personel.

Spag's got to be better pick than Fassel.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Snyder always wants the flavor of the month. I think the Super Bowl outcome is going to incite Snyder to seriously consider Spagnuolo as HC.

After watching what they did I don't know if I mind so much. Granted much of their pressure on defense is attributed to their personel.

Spag's got to be better pick than Fassel.

I don't see how Spags is the better option than Fassel for this team.

1. Fassel has experience not only as a head coach but as a head coach in NYC (well technically East Rutherford, but still), and he was successful

2. Fassel has experience developing young QBs, and he was successful

3. While Blache can help Spagnuolo out if he's hired, who will help Zorn out?

[QBall]

It's looking now like Spags or Fassel. Mariucci interview must have not gone well on Wednesday of last week????

Hope that whoever it is we can leverage our Great Roster, Strong Coaches, Great Hall of Fame Class, and move forward into the future with Campbell and CO. stepping up big.

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't see how Spags is the better option than Fassel for this team.

1. Fassel has experience not only as a head coach but as a head coach in NYC (well technically East Rutherford, but still), and he was successful

2. Fassel has experience developing young QBs, and he was successful

3. While Blache can help Spagnuolo out if he's hired, who will help Zorn out?

I think it's a bit naive to think that Fassel is the answer for this team, and I never thought he was that great of a coach with the Giants. He also flopped miserably as the OC of the Ravens. Look, his greatest success with the Giants came with John Fox and Sean Payton on his staff which certainly helped make him look a lot better than he actually was.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

I think it's a bit naive to think that Fassel is the answer for this team, and I never thought he was that great of a coach with the Giants. He also flopped miserably as the OC of the Ravens. Look, his greatest success with the Giants came with John Fox and Sean Payton on his staff which certainly helped make him look a lot better than he actually was.

The Ravens are cursed offensively. That happens to many offensive geniuses when they go to Baltimore. They've just never had the personnel.

Wasn't it Fassel who recognized the abilities of Fox and Peyton and hired them?

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The Ravens are cursed offensively. That happens to many offensive geniuses when they go to Baltimore. They've just never had the personnel.

Wasn't it Fassel who recognized the abilities of Fox and Peyton and hired them?

If he's such an offensive genius he would have found a way to make it work. The personnel argument is just plain obligatory. I don't doubt that he probably had some excellent advice and a lot of good fortune when he decided to hire Fox and Payton I wouldn't say that he was soley responsible for those hires.

[MTK]

Anyone is a better pick than Fassel to some people. The Fassel hate doesn't make a ton of sense but it is what it is.

[Coff]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Anyone is a better pick than Fassel to some people. The Fassel hate doesn't make a ton of sense but it is what it is.

A lot of it is thinking with the heart and not with the mind, which isn't altogether that bad (especially since we are completely unable to affect the outcome). I support Spags over the other guys precisely because he has no experience. I want a new guy who is unproven, from whom we don't know what to expect. It's more exciting because the possibility remains, however remote, that he may become one of the greatest coaches in the history of the game. Is this logical? Not really, but isn't it more fun to root for a draft pick than a veteran free agent signee? I think hiring a coach like Spags (or Meeks) is the equivalent to drafting a player, while hiring Mooch or Fassell is like getting a veteran free agent. I don't want someone else's sloppy seconds, and I doubt I'm the only one out there who feels this way. That explains a lot of the Fassel hate; it's not that we feel he's a bad coach (well, many people do I guess), but that we know two things about him: 1) He does not have the potential to be one of the greatest ever, and 2) He was fired by the Giants. Why would we want that guy when we can have Steve Spagnuolo, a guy whose potential is, for all we currently know, limitless?