Now That Monk Is In...

[Monkeydad]

Charles Mann?

Dexter Manley?

Joe Theismann?

Larry Brown?

Brig Owens?

Dave Butz?

Mark Moseley?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Buster

Charles Mann?

Dexter Manley?

Joe Theismann?

Larry Brown?

Brig Owens?

Dave Butz?

Mark Moseley?

Theismann???

[celts32]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Theismann???

Super Bowl XVIII cost Joey T the HOF. That was an incredible team and that would have given him back to back titles. QB's can get in for winning even if they don't have typical HOF numbers...see Troy Aikman. I firmly believe he would have been a 1st ballot HOF if he had won that one game. No single player lost as much in that game.

[Beemnseven]

The hatred for Theismann is unparalleled so there's no way he gets consideration for the Hall.

I'm all for Gary Clark -- it was Peter King who said for years that the reason he wouldn't vote Art Monk in was because whenever the Giants played the Skins, the guy they were all worried about was Clark. I don't have time to look up his stats, but aren't they near Swann and Stallworth?

One or more of the Hogs have to get in. Grimm should be in soon, but it may be a bit longer for Jacoby. For some reason, there doesn't seem to be much of a push for Lachey, but there are others who made less of an impact than he did who are in, so why not?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by celts32

Super Bowl XVIII cost Joey T the HOF. That was an incredible team and that would have given him back to back titles. QB's can get in for winning even if they don't have typical HOF numbers...see Troy Aikman. I firmly believe he would have been a 1st ballot HOF if he had won that one game. No single player lost as much in that game.

Well you bring up a good point about the two in a row. But I just don't think Theismann played at a real high level for a long enough period of time. He had a three year run from 82-84 where he played very well. 83 he won the MVP and that was his best year. Otherwise you're looking at an average NFL QB. His starting seasons from 77-81 were just plain old average to below average. And his 85 season was just plain old bad. I remember him being booed at RFK pretty bad in 85. HOF QB's in or around his era were Montana, Marinio, Moon and Fouts. All those guys IMO were better than Theismann. I might take Phil Simms over Theismann.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well you bring up a good point about the two in a row. But I just don't think Theismann played at a real high level for a long enough period of time. He had a three year run from 82-84 where he played very well. 83 he won the MVP and that was his best year. Otherwise you're looking at an average NFL QB. His starting seasons from 77-81 were just plain old average to below average. And his 85 season was just plain old bad. I remember him being booed at RFK pretty bad in 85. HOF QB's in or around his era were Montana, Marinio, Moon and Fouts. All those guys IMO were better than Theismann. I might take Phil Simms over Theismann.

He did have some average seasons but if you can put yourself back in that moment in 1983 he was considered the best QB in football at that time and that was the most prolific offfense ever. The HOF voteres are very into winning and where you rank among your peers individually and Joe T was at the top of the league for those years. As for Simms I believe he would be in also if he had won that 1990 SB instead of Hostetler.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by celts32

Super Bowl XVIII cost Joey T the HOF. That was an incredible team and that would have given him back to back titles. QB's can get in for winning even if they don't have typical HOF numbers...see Troy Aikman. I firmly believe he would have been a 1st ballot HOF if he had won that one game. No single player lost as much in that game.

Agreed. Had we won, Joe T. most likely would be in the HOF.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by celts32

No single player lost as much in that game.

And his wife! All this over a piece of tail (Cathy Lee Crosby)

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

And his wife! All this over a piece of tail (Cathy Lee Crosby)

I remember after all that crap went down at the SB Joe's wife went on the cover of Washingtonian Magazine. I believe her name is Shari. Very nice looking blonde. She just aired all their dirty laundry right in the magazine. It must have been very embarassing for Joe. Anyone remember that?? But I'll say this about Joe T. He can pull some nice ass. His current wife looks real nice. And his daughter looks good too.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

But I'll say this about Joe T. He can pull some nice ass. His current wife looks real nice. And his daughter looks good too.

Pictures!!

[SkinDogg]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I remember after all that crap went down at the SB Joe's wife went on the cover of Washingtonian Magazine. I believe her name is Shari. Very nice looking blonde. She just aired all their dirty laundry right in the magazine. It must have been very embarassing for Joe. Anyone remember that?? But I'll say this about Joe T. He can pull some nice ass. His current wife looks real nice. And his daughter looks good too.

Of course I remember. I remember Shari in Washingtonian, I remember Joey T. passing out GET HOT WITH CATHY LEE tshirts around the locker room (she was plugging a workout video), and I remember them flaunting their asses all around Tysons. It was straight up Redskin-National Enquirer. I also remember the hot sex busting up not long after Joe's leg. Thanks LT!

oh, and i think i heard Joey ended up suing Cathy Lee.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by Buster

Charles Mann?

Dexter Manley?

Joe Theismann?

Larry Brown?

Brig Owens?

Dave Butz?

Mark Moseley?

Why has Dave Butz never been thought of as a HOF?