Man, is Sally Jenkins dating Antonio Pierce?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

I just said I dont listen to thing that they havent participated in, and, for me, that goes fro politics, sports, and religion.

Many of the best coaches never played pro football and some never played college football. Yet, they were still given chances and thrived.

You don't listen to people who haven't had experience in politics about political matters? Really? You do realize that politics is about everything under the sun and politicians are not really experts in anything other than running campaigns, fundraising, and public speaking. For example, I listen to "non-politicans" when it comes to military affairs, health care experts when it comes to health care issues, and economists when it comes to economic issues.

As for religion, you only listen to people who have participated in religion? What does that mean?

I don't think you really meant what you said.

[skinsguy]

Sally Jenkins is doing exactly what she has set out to do. To write the most scathing commentary that she possibly can about the Redskins, because it draws attention. Look at it like this, it should fuel the fire for Danny boy to do whatever he can to turn the Redskins into winners. Until the Redskins win the Super Bowl, I'd expect more of the same from her.

[SmootSmack]

Ok, let's take this piece by piece

So we now instintually listen to everyone who has an opinion on something that they have never taken part in. Please!

I'll respond once I figure out what "instintually" means

I've seen countless times people in this group talk about someone not knowing what they are talking about because they havent played football! And please dont lie and say that it hasnt happened, because we all know when people start talkin about what they want to see in the draft, free agency, and our play calling that is thrown around an awful lot.

You're right it is, and it shouldn't be. Usually when someone makes that comment it's quickly shut down as an errant comment

So spare me the inconsistent examples, and stop trying to make me out to be something that I am not.

Nothing inconsistent, but fine.

As for me and my inside scoop...lol. I reported that the Jets were interested in Betts for a 2nd rounder, and guess who they did get for a second rounder - Thomas Jones. So there,, the trade did happen, just not for us.

Touche

I like how you wanna act like you know me man. You make comments about me, and I didnt go at you or anyone else in this forum like that. I think you should stick to the issue as well, and I would appreciate it if kept me and my PAST business out of your mouth and off of this forum. I would think that an apology is in order. Like I did to those who I have offended, you should do the same, but can I realistically expect that? Time will tell.

I think you completely misread my point. You have stated here that you are/were the Chipotle dude at Wizards games and that's how you got this unique access to Wizards games. And I was simply saying that it would be ridiculous for anyone of us to say "well then keep your participation on this board to that. I'll take a page out your book here...I apologize if I offended any of the forum members, but I stand by my comments.

The only thing I ask from this forum is that we objectively talk about the issues. we would be better off. I never said anything bad about women. I just said I dont listen to thing that they havent participated in, and, for me, that goes fro politics, sports, and religion. I just want you all to see the "nature" of my comment before you lash out. Maybe you want to even ask me for clarification before you jump the gun. If that would have happened at first, then maybe we wouldnt bee here.

Ok, clarify.

Is it too much to ask the moderators to help facilitate that type of discourse? Once again, time will tell.

To be honest, some discourse isn't worth facilitating

PS.
Sean and Clayton dont do that segment anymore in video(now in radio), because of all the animosity that played out. Whether it was playful or not, its not a staple of ESPN as it once was.

Yeah I'm not sure I'm the one you want to argue with over what ESPN does or why it does what it does

PPS
In the broadcast booth for football games, when do u ever see the announcer, whether it be Joe Buck or Pat Summerall, comment on the intricacies of actual gameplay? That is reserved for the ex-coaches and players. Dennis Miller, when he was on MNF, would often over step that line, and due to that, among other reason, he was consequently fired

I don't think Sally Jenkins was talking about the intricacies of actual gameplay. And I can't believe I'm here defending her

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ok, let's take this piece by piece

I'll respond once I figure out what "instintually" means

You're right it is, and it shouldn't be. Usually when someone makes that comment it's quickly shut down as an errant comment

Nothing inconsistent, but fine.

Touche

I think you completely misread my point. You have stated here that you are/were the Chipotle dude at Wizards games and that's how you got this unique access to Wizards games. And I was simply saying that it would be ridiculous for anyone of us to say "well then keep your participation on this board to that. I'll take a page out your book here...I apologize if I offended any of the forum members, but I stand by my comments.

Ok, clarify.

To be honest, some discourse isn't worth facilitating

Yeah I'm not sure I'm the one you want to argue with over what ESPN does or why it does what it does

I don't think Sally Jenkins was talking about the intricacies of actual game play. And I can't believe I'm here defending her

By Instinctually, I am referring to the "truth bias" that pertains to the individual and the "media bias" that is peddled on behalf of the masses. We automatically or innately assume that the people that we speak to, or the persons that report the news are correct or credible sources because of their positions. So if one were to have a defensive mindset to that aspect(e.g. my comments to the perspective of Sally Jenkins), then the burden of proof would be on the communicator to prove to one's self that their observations are so valid and poignant, that the nature of their inexperience is of no consequence to the listener or reader. All, I was saying is that I believe a more critical apprach is needed when evaluating aspects of the media.

As for clarification, in retrospect, I maybe should have said that I "question" instead of "I don't listen to," and how much "one" can really know about something that they haven't played or in which they were a participant, rather than use "woman" or "SJ." Those comments may not have taken as much heat, but at the same time, I did the exact thing, but I was just more specific with that example.

I agree some discourse isn't worth facilitating, but just as ignorant as that discourse may be, it is just as ignorant to preclude someone's perspective before you understand where that someone is coming from and/or meant.

I really laughed out loud, at your disbelief in defending SJ....that was comedy

[redskinsfanatic]

who's sally jenkins???i live way out in the boonies so i have never heard of her!

[SmootSmack]

So do you hold all our opinions (our non-playing opinions) on this board in low regard as well?

And if so, what were you hoping to accomplish by joining the site in the first place?

[SkinsFanSince91]

I do have esteem for the opinions and comments of everyone in this forum and on The Warpath. I have esteem for the opinions of those who have not played football, coached, or have been part of a sports organization. I respect those with journalism backgrounds.

However, to those on here who have played, coached, or been part of sports organizations, I consider their comments and opinions to hold more weight.

As to why I joined up to the Warpath, I am a die hard fan, and I want to be able to talk about football with like minded people year round. I don't mind conversation. I don't even mind disagreements. I do, from time to time, have to clarify my statements to other members. Thats is what happened today.