Dan Snyder losing respectability?

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Hiring a GM might work for us, but so might the current arrangement. Jerry Jones, as owner, has done quite well lately even though he is just as involved in team affairs as Dan Snyder.

I'm still convinced that most of our woes are attributable to our inability to find a quality quarterback. If JC develops into an above average QB, I think most of our woes will fall by the wayside.

And Jerry Jones is not constantly being bashed for the way he does things; Why? because his team wins. The reason Snyder takes the heat is because his teams have not been winners on a consistent basis. If the Redskins were winning [the way fans like to see them win] all of this talk about Snyder would be an afterthought.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

And Jerry Jones is not constantly being bashed for the way he does things; Why? because his team wins. The reason Snyder takes the heat is because his teams have not been winners on a consistent basis. If the Redskins were winning [the way fans like to see them win] all of this talk about Snyder would be an afterthought.

One of the reasons, or maybe, THE reason his team has had winning seasons 3 of the last 5 years is he hired a football guy & gave him a lot of authority - the tuna. JJ has mellowed a lot too & has learned from his mistakes.

Don't forget he's been on the job 10 years longer than danny & is a couple decades+ older. The Danny will mellow & learn too. Either that or sell!!

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

One of the reasons, or maybe, THE reason his team has had winning seasons 3 of the last 5 years is he hired a football guy & gave him a lot of authority - the tuna. JJ has mellowed a lot too & has learned from his mistakes.

Don't forget he's been on the job 10 years longer than danny & is a couple decades+ older. The Danny will mellow & learn too. Either that or sell!!

You make a good point, sometimes I think we forget just how young Snyder is, and he's learning on the fly. He has had three playoff apearences in the eight yrs. he's owned the team, that's more than some owners can boast that have been owners' much longer than he has.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

And Jerry Jones is not constantly being bashed for the way he does things; Why? because his team wins. The reason Snyder takes the heat is because his teams have not been winners on a consistent basis. If the Redskins were winning [the way fans like to see them win] all of this talk about Snyder would be an afterthought.

This has been discussed in other threads recently but in this decade the Cowboys aren't significantly better than the Redskins regarding wins and losses, and they haven't won a playoff game in forever either. Jones won back in the day with JJ, who let's face it had a great eye for talent and was mainly responsible for their success.

I honestly don't think the disdain for Snyder will ever completely go away. It comes and goes, but it seems whenever there's an opportunity to pounce, people jump all over him.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

This has been discussed in other threads recently but in this decade the Cowboys aren't significantly better than the Redskins regarding wins and losses, and they haven't won a playoff game in forever either. Jones won back in the day with JJ, who let's face it had a great eye for talent and was mainly responsible for their success.

I honestly don't think the disdain for Snyder will ever completely go away. It comes and goes, but it seems whenever there's an opportunity to pounce, people jump all over him.

I agree Matty, and just can't help but wonder why Snyder takes so much blame for the way he operates when in reality it's so simular to the way JJ run the Cowboys.

You're probably correct when it comes to the disdain for Snyder though, and every now and then it apears to be open season.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I agree Matty, and just can't help but wonder why Snyder takes so much blame for the way he operates when in reality it's so simular to the way JJ run the Cowboys.

You're probably correct when it comes to the disdain for Snyder though, and every now and then it apears to be open season.

There are two huge differences between Jerry Jones and Snyder:

1) JERRY Jones has won several Super Bowls; Mr. Snyder in 8 years still has to buy tickets to go to one.
2) Mr. Jones comes from a huge football background. He was a star Rb out of High school and received multiple scholarship offers to play at major NCAA Div I schools. He ended up at U of Arkansas with Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer.
Mr. Snyder has never been on or around any organized major football team.
Even his high school team that he was not on (B.C.C.) is perennially a terrible team. So I do not understand why he thinks he has the knowledge to be the final say in all player operations? He has proven over the last eight years he is not football savvy.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

There are two huge differences between Jerry Jones and Snyder:

1) JERRY Jones has won several Super Bowls; Mr. Snyder in 8 years still has to buy tickets to go to one.
2) Mr. Jones comes from a huge football background. He was a star Rb out of High school and received multiple scholarship offers to play at major NCAA Div I schools. He ended up at U of Arkansas with Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer.
Mr. Snyder has never been on or around any organized major football team.
Even his high school team that he was not on (B.C.C.) is perennially a terrible team. So I do not understand why he thinks he has the knowledge to be the final say in all player operations? He has proven over the last eight years he is not football savvy.

I wouldn't argue with one single thing you said, but when ownership was transfered form the Cooke Foundation and Daniel Snyder asumed ownership, there was no criteria established that the new owner had to have a football background, or any previous association with the world of sports. Had that been the case, then perhaps Snyder would not have been able to purchase the team. Snyder is what he is, and unfortunately he's what we have to live with unless he decides to sell the team.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I wouldn't argue with one single thing you said, but when ownership was transfered form the Cooke Foundation and Daniel Snyder asumed ownership, there was no criteria established that the new owner had to have a football background, or any previous association with the world of sports. Had that been the case, then perhaps Snyder would not have been able to purchase the team. Snyder is what he is, and unfortunately he's what we have to live with unless he decides to sell the team.

You miss my point. I am not saying there needs to be a criteria for an owner to know about football before he buys a team. Jack Kent Cooke was not a football man either but he knew to stay clear and let the professionals do their jobs. I don't care if the Pope buys the team, I just don't want the Pope to think he can be our President and GM like Snyder thinks he can.
Snyder wants to be like Jerry Jones but he does not have the background to do it.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

You miss my point. I am not saying there needs to be a criteria for an owner to know about football before he buys a team. Jack Kent Cooke was not a football man either but he knew to stay clear and let the professionals do their jobs. I don't care if the Pope buys the team, I just don't want the Pope to think he can be our President and GM like Snyder thinks he can.
Snyder wants to be like Jerry Jones but he does not have the background to do it.

Jack Kent Cooke had vast knowledge of how the professional sports world operated because he had previously owned sporting franchises', not in football but Hockey and Basketball.

Mr. Cooke was also more hands-on than many people realize. He came very close to firing Joe Gibbs at the beginning of his first tenure here, it's just that during that time, every little thing wasn't scrutinized and made public the way it is today.