Ocho Cinco In B&G

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

No to Ocho Cinco.

1) Not what a first time HC needs; a 30 yr. old, very expensive, self-serving head case in the locker room.

2) Johnson "disappears" quite a bit. His numbers are misleading, he will explode in a couple of games and then do little or nothing for 3-4 weeks at a time.

3) Not sure the Bengals are going to want to take an $ 8M + cap hit anyway

I tend to disagree with note 2)

to the contrary if you look at the production of T. J. Houshmandzadeh this past season, you will see he has more yards and TD's than CJ.

But I credit that as a direct reflection of CJ's abilities. With most teams shifting coverges to Johnsons side and doubling him, it created more opportunities for Houshmandzadeh to excel.

That is what a WR of Johnsons abilities brings to the table. He does not have to get 25 TD's and 1500 yds per year to contribute. His mere presence on the field forces defenses to account for him at all times, thereby creating opportunities for his team mates.

Just think of the possibilities of Moss and Johnson on the field. Who do you double team? Pick your poison is all I can say.

Throw ARE in the slot and you have provided Campbell with several legitimate targets. Did I mention Cooley?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

I tend to disagree with note 2)

to the contrary if you look at the production of T. J. Houshmandzadeh this past season, you will see he has more yards and TD's than CJ.

But I credit that as a direct reflection of CJ's abilities. With most teams shifting coverges to Johnsons side and doubling him, it created more opportunities for Houshmandzadeh to excel.

That is what a WR of Johnsons abilities brings to the table. He does not have to get 25 TD's and 1500 yds per year to contribute. His mere presence on the field forces defenses to account for him at all times, thereby creating opportunities for his team mates.

Just think of the possibilities of Moss and Johnson on the field. Who do you double team? Pick your poison is all I can say.

Throw ARE in the slot and you have provided Campbell with several legitimate targets. Did I mention Cooley?

There's no denying what CJ would bring to the table and he would certainly make the entire offense better by just being in the lineup.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

There's no denying what CJ would bring to the table and he would certainly make the entire offense better by just being in the lineup.

Thank you that is what I've been saying

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

to the contrary if you look at the production of T. J. Houshmandzadeh this past season, you will see he has more yards and TD's than CJ.

But I credit that as a direct reflection of CJ's abilities. With most teams shifting coverges to Johnsons side and doubling him, it created more opportunities for Houshmandzadeh to excel.

That is what a WR of Johnsons abilities brings to the table. He does not have to get 25 TD's and 1500 yds per year to contribute. His mere presence on the field forces defenses to account for him at all times, thereby creating opportunities for his team mates.

Just think of the possibilities of Moss and Johnson on the field. Who do you double team? Pick your poison is all I can say.

Throw ARE in the slot and you have provided Campbell with several legitimate targets. Did I mention Cooley?

I understand a true # 1 will cause the defense to shift, but if you look at the production of the true #1s, they are for the most part consistent. Randy Moss, Reggie Wayne (this year with Harrison out), Torry Holt, Terrell Owens. It also cuts both ways, Houz is no mystery as a Pro Bowl caliber receiver. He is not the deep threat that CJ is, but a very solid receiver that the defense still must account for, this takes away the ability for teams to double CJ all game and should open up things for him.

I'm not saying CJ is a bad player, he is very good, but the cost/benefit for the Skins at this point in time is not good IMO.