(updated title): Make Your Day One Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 1-2)

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by Skins4Life101

Rnd 3

Jordy Nelson (WR - KSU)
Assuming we dont get Berrian or Ocho Cinco... And we actually HAVE this pick. I also say if we get Nelson, trade Randle El and let Mix and Nelson round out the top 3 receivers... He also TORCHED Auburn AND #1 CB Talib.

Jordy Nelson is the sleeper of all sleepers in this draft!!!

HE has the size, quickness, toughness, hands, and break away ability that we would look for at the WR position.

Sorry, to all of the TAlib Fans, but here is a clip of Talib getting baked.
YouTube - Jordy Nelson destroys Aqib Talib

Skins4Life is right, he may not make it past the 2nd round, so I think we would have to choose between Jordy Nelson and Devin Thomas, which is not an easy choice.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

Jordy Nelson is the sleeper of all sleepers in this draft!!!

HE has the size, quickness, toughness, hands, and break away ability that we would look for at the WR position.

Sorry, to all of the TAlib Fans, but here is a clip of Talib getting baked.
YouTube - Jordy Nelson destroys Aqib Talib

Skins4Life is right, he may not make it past the 2nd round, so I think we would have to choose between Jordy Nelson and Devin Thomas, which is not an easy choice.

What's the point of the video clip? So he's not perfect, so what? I'm sure Jordy Nelson has dropped a pass before.

I guess I'm just trying to figure out if you are saying Talib is no good, and basing it on this clip

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What's the point of the video clip? So he's not perfect, so what? I'm sure Jordy Nelson has dropped a pass before.

I guess I'm just trying to figure out if you are saying Talib is no good, and basing it on this clip

Talib is good. Im not denying that, but I dont think he is worth 1st round consideration. IMO, only Mike Walker, Leodis McKelvin, and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie are the only CB's worth a look at for us at #21 overall.

And, yes, Jordy Nelson has dropped as pass before, but I would think that for someone projected a first round pick, that Talib wouldnt have looked that bad against someone who is project in the 2nd-3rd rounds.

Against Talib and Kansas, Jordy Nelson had 10 catches, 137 yards, and a touchdown of 68 yards that you saw in the clip. If he get cooked like that by a college player, then my only question is what is gonna happen against TO, Kevin Curtis, and PLax? My guess, is the same thing just a little more time in the oven when Talib gets baked...lol

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

Talib is good. Im not denying that, but I dont think he is worth 1st round consideration. IMO, only Mike Walker, Leodis McKelvin, and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie are the only CB's worth a look at for us at #21 overall.

And, yes, Jordy Nelson has dropped as pass before, but I would think that for someone projected a first round pick, that Talib wouldnt have looked that bad against someone who is project in the 2nd-3rd rounds.

Against Talib and Kansas, Jordy Nelson had 10 catches, 137 yards, and a touchdown of 68 yards that you saw in the clip. If he get cooked like that by a college player, then my only question is what is gonna happen against TO, Kevin Curtis, and PLax? My guess, is the same thing just a little more time in the oven when Talib gets baked...lol

Todd McShay said if Talib has a good combine he'll be a top 10 pick. Everyone has a bad game every now and then. Overall body of work, Talib is a 1st rounder no doubt. I haven't seen a mock draft that doesn't have him in the top 32.

[DGreene28]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What's the point of the video clip? So he's not perfect, so what? I'm sure Jordy Nelson has dropped a pass before.

I guess I'm just trying to figure out if you are saying Talib is no good, and basing it on this clip

Aqib Talib is very overated... he will be a bust in the NFL. Cason is not a good pick for us either. C'mon down I'll show you some tape. Same could be said for Calais Campbell, there's a reason why he's fallen out of the 1st round in real mock drafts

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by DGreene28

Aqib Talib is very overated... he will be a bust in the NFL. Cason is not a good pick for us either. C'mon down I'll show you some tape. Same could be said for Calais Campbell, there's a reason why he's fallen out of the 1st round in good mock drafts

Well I respect your opinion a lot, A LOT, on this matter

But you're dead wrong! (I agree about Campbell)

I've always liked Cason more than Talib. But you're not really a fan eh? Can you pull some tape of Terrell Thomas and the kid from Iowa (Godfrey?). Oh and Lavelle Hawkins too

I gotta get down there and watch some tapes. You in Building 2 or 4? Let's do lunch

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

Jordy Nelson is the sleeper of all sleepers in this draft!!!

HE has the size, quickness, toughness, hands, and break away ability that we would look for at the WR position.

Sorry, to all of the TAlib Fans, but here is a clip of Talib getting baked.
YouTube - Jordy Nelson destroys Aqib Talib

Skins4Life is right, he may not make it past the 2nd round, so I think we would have to choose between Jordy Nelson and Devin Thomas, which is not an easy choice.

Has anyone mentioned that the guy put up 1,606 yards last year in the Big 12. Thats almost double what Limas Sweed put up during his breakout year. Check out the guys game log and you'll see that he had great games against quality oponents. Unlike Sweed who made a living taking advantage of the Rice's of college football.

The funny thing is that when I was watching that video I kept saying to myself "Is he white? Theres no way its just bad YouTube quality. Wait maybe he is. Alright Yahoo Images. HOLY SHIT HE'S WHITE!!"

ESPN - Jordy Nelson Stats, News, Photos - Kansas State Wildcats - NCAA College Football

[81forHOF]

I HAVE GOT THE PICK FOR US!!

The best value at #21 is Brandon Albert OG from Virginia. I just looked at some footage on him @ NFL.com and he is a MONSTER. He pulls, finishes, awesome at the 2nd (and 3rd) level, has the size and athletesism to play tackle in a pinch, run blocks like Tre Johnson, pass blocking is solid. You need to check this guy out!!

I say we get Jared Allen if FA and draft this beast in the 1st rnd! Then grab a WR or CB in the 2nd.

NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League

It is the vid titled Long On Talent where Maylock breaks down the top OL prospects.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 81forHOF

I HAVE GOT THE PICK FOR US!!

The best value at #21 is Brandon Albert OG from Virginia. I just looked at some footage on him @ NFL.com and he is a MONSTER. He pulls, finishes, awesome at the 2nd (and 3rd) level, has the size and athletesism to play tackle in a pinch, run blocks like Tre Johnson, pass blocking is solid. You need to check this guy out!!

I say we get Jared Allen if FA and draft this beast in the 1st rnd! Then grab a WR or CB in the 2nd.

Albert is a monster. 6-7 310- he's like Ogden. I personally think though that we need to go CB or WR in the first round and fill in the Oline with later picks.

[81forHOF]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Albert is a monster. 6-7 310- he's like Ogden. I personally think though that we need to go CB or WR in the first round and fill in the Oline with later picks.

I would normally agree but some guys you just gotta grab.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by 81forHOF

I HAVE GOT THE PICK FOR US!!

The best value at #21 is Brandon Albert OG from Virginia. I just looked at some footage on him @ NFL.com and he is a MONSTER. He pulls, finishes, awesome at the 2nd (and 3rd) level, has the size and athletesism to play tackle in a pinch, run blocks like Tre Johnson, pass blocking is solid. You need to check this guy out!!

I say we get Jared Allen if FA and draft this beast in the 1st rnd! Then grab a WR or CB in the 2nd.

NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League

It is the vid titled Long On Talent where Maylock breaks down the top OL prospects.

I posted the same thing in another thread yesterday. I like Albert a lot & the main reason he'd be worth picking at #21 (if he's there), is that he can play guard or tackle. We need that versatility because in all likelihood at least one of our reserve o linemen will see considerable time this year.

If not Albert, I'm going:
1) c. Campbell or L. Jackson, DE
2) Brandon Flowers, CB, Va. TEch

[Drift Reality]

I have a question for those that are saying we need to go after a cornerback high in the draft: name the starting CB's for the Giants...

I think it is a big myth that you need shutdown corners at both slots. You only need shutdown cornerbacks if you don't have a consistent pass rush from your defensive line.

Look at what the Giants did to the Patriots with an aging Sam Madison (33 years old) and Aaron Ross (not exactly a household name) slotted at cornerback.

I would also say that those who are lobbying hard for a "big wide receiver" are also off the mark. I think we need one but the top of the draft is when we need to find our horses - those guys up front that are going to just create havok on both sides of the ball.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Drift Reality

I have a question for those that are saying we need to go after a cornerback high in the draft: name the starting CB's for the Giants...

Players who don't have sub 4.9 40's are hard to sell to fans. I'm with you, I really want to get some young guys up front, and I also don't believe that Corners are vital anymore for success on the Defensive side of the ball.

Also Smootsmack found some "tape" on Karl Nicks. Looks ok during the 1 on 1 drills, and about as good as you can in the helments only drill but the guy is a monster during the senior bowl, regularly throwing guys around like raggity Ann dolls. Wish I could find more then 30 seconds of footage on Brandon Albert.

YouTube - NFL Huskers - 2008 Senior Bowl

Cromartie-Rogers isn't as bad as I'm making him out to be, but as I said before we're neglecting young talent along the trenches. However if this guy gets drafted though I can get on board

YouTube - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Senior Bowl

[Drift Reality]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Players who don't have sub 4.9 40's are hard to sell to fans. I'm with you, I really want to get some young guys up front, and I also don't believe that Corners are vital anymore for success on the Defensive side of the ball.

Also Smootsmack found some "tape" on Karl Nicks. Looks ok during the 1 on 1 drills, and about as good as you can in the helments only drill but the guy is a monster during the senior bowl, regularly throwing guys around like raggity Ann dolls. Wish I could find more then 30 seconds of footage on Brandon Albert.

YouTube - NFL Huskers - 2008 Senior Bowl

Cromartie-Rogers isn't as bad as I'm making him out to be, but as I said before we're neglecting young talent along the trenches. However if this guy gets drafted though I can get on board

YouTube - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Senior Bowl

An average cornerback can become good with a great defensive line, but a good cornerback will become average with a poor defensive line. Similarly, a great offensive line will make all the skill players seem better.

That being said, the YouTube clip you posted on Cromartie-Rogers is pretty impressive...still, if there is a great d-lineman available at that point I'd love to see us taking him.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by Drift Reality

I have a question for those that are saying we need to go after a cornerback high in the draft: name the starting CB's for the Giants...

I think it is a big myth that you need shutdown corners at both slots. You only need shutdown cornerbacks if you don't have a consistent pass rush from your defensive line.

Look at what the Giants did to the Patriots with an aging Sam Madison (33 years old) and Aaron Ross (not exactly a household name) slotted at cornerback.

I would also say that those who are lobbying hard for a "big wide receiver" are also off the mark. I think we need one but the top of the draft is when we need to find our horses - those guys up front that are going to just create havok on both sides of the ball.

It wasn't that they didnt have good corners because they did, but it was an overal defensive team effort. D-line played a HUGE part in it, but we do need shut down corners for the reason u just mentioned - we don't get a good, consistent rush to the QB.

Get a top-flight CD in DRC if he falls, and then we can address D-line later. The top rated talent at DL wont be available to us lat #21, but a top-flight corner in DRC should be.