(updated title): Make Your Day One Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 1-2)

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

Anquan Boldin ran a pedestrian 4.71 at his combine. Not to say I could be in the league, but when I was in HS I ran a 4.67.

Nelson had more production at receiver in college, is faster that Boldin, and will likely enjoy the same level of success, if not more, than AB had in Arizona after a few years. Nelson needs to been in burgundy and gold come the start of the season.

if you want we can put money on it. the number of WRs that have 1500+ yards as rookies is almost non existent. I'll take that bet any day, and i'll bet AB's yards/game for his career remains better than nelson's too.

AB breaks tackles like no other WR, while nelson's highlights show him making speed cuts against college players that are generally much slower than standard nfl fare.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by That Guy

if you want we can put money on it. the number of WRs that have 1500+ yards as rookies is almost non existent. I'll take that bet any day, and i'll bet AB's yards/game for his career remains better than nelson's too.

While I wont put money on it, because AB didn't even do it, I will say that "straight-line" speed doesn't matter as much in the NFL as acceleration and burst do. In college the hash marks are out wider making it easier for faster players to run across field and break due to their speed(see Reggie Bush).

I never said anything about putting up 1500 yards. I said the JNelson will have comparable success in the NFL, to that of Anquan Boldin. As for career numbers, I wouldn't bet on anyone who hasn't made it to the league yet (he could easliy get hurt and have his career fold, and as I result I would lose. Nice try though).

Jordy Nelson is probably one of the safest picks at the WR, easy.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

While I wont put money on it, because AB didn't even do it, I will say that "straight-line" speed doesn't matter as much in the NFL as acceleration and burst do. In college the hash marks are out wider making it easier for faster players to run across field and break due to their speed(see Reggie Bush).

I never said anything about putting up 1500 yards. I said the JNelson will have comparable success in the NFL, to that of Anquan Boldin. As for career numbers, I wouldn't bet on anyone who hasn't made it to the league yet (he could easliy get hurt and have his career fold, and as I result I would lose. Nice try though).

Jordy Nelson is probably one of the safest picks at the WR, easy.

whatever, we can compare year by year for as long as he's in the league. he's NOT the safest pick, or else he'd be a lot higher than the third round. I'm not hating on the guy, but he's not going to make a lot of the plays that got him that one good year in college, and he's probably not going to be a stud nfl receiver.

I would bet he'd be consistent and that he could possibly put up decent numbers like a mike furrey, but drafted WRs without multiple years of proven success are generally a crapshot as far as nfl success, many don't produce till 3 years in, and we could improve more elsewhere immediately (like at DB, DL, OL, or safety) even in the bottom of the 3rd round.

[That Guy]

i don't know why some people think smoot is such a terrible player. but whatever, to each his own.

i mean, we have 2 starters at cb for next year, and only 1 safety (with a backup) and the year after that and beyond we'll still have two unless carlos's injury is far worse than has been reported. it's silly to think we're going to ditch springs this year without a FA replacement or that we're just going to start a rookie corner at the #1 spot and pray for the best.

btw, the "too much talent" argument is kinda weak, though i've heard it before. they figure out ways to use him and he'll figure out a way to make plays. i mean, taylor and landry sure looked better than landry and that other guy

i also think you overlooked that i had the skins projecting to pick up a cb in either the 1st or 2nd (DRC, porter, etc) and in day two, so i don't really understand what inspired such a long response. I was talking about immediate impact and this whole deal about whether we'll need a new corner at some point thing is sorta a completely different direction than that (since a cb faces more competition to start here, takes longer to learn, etc).

[davelavarra]

Calais Campbell, at #21, would be a no-brainer. I'll wait next round for a wide receiver, possibly a big one, a possession one.

[QBall]

Originally Posted by davelavarra

Calais Campbell, at #21, would be a no-brainer. I'll wait next round for a wide receiver, possibly a big one, a possession one.

Will be interesting to see if we draft offense high this year. With Zorn a very offensive minded coach we'll see, depends on Free agency I guess.

[Campbell17]

Round 1: If we havent landed Ocho Cinco yet, I think Mario Manningham would be a nice fit. If we have, Vernon Gholston.
Round 2: Under consideration.

[QBall]

Player Pos. School Grade
1. Darren McFadden* RB Arkansas 99
2. Chris Long DE Virginia 98
3. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU 98
4. Matt Ryan QB Boston Coll. 98
5. Jake Long OT Michigan 98
6. Sedrick Ellis DT USC 97
7. Ryan Clady* OT Boise St. 96
8. Leodis McKelvin CB Troy 96
9. Vernon Gholston* DE Ohio State 96
10. Malcolm Kelly* WR Oklahoma 96
11. Mike Jenkins CB S. Florida 95
12. DeSean Jackson* WR California 95
13. Rashard Mendenhall* RB Illinois 95
14. Aqib Talib* CB Kansas 94
15. Mario Manningham* WR Michigan 94
16. Derrick Harvey* DE Florida 94
17. Kentwan Balmer DT N. Carolina 94
18. Jonathan Stewart* RB Oregon 94
19. Limas Sweed WR Texas 93
20. Brian Brohm QB Louisville 93
21. Phillip Merling* DE Clemson 93
22. Keith Rivers OLB USC 93
23. Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt 92
24. Dan Connor OLB Penn State 92
25. Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh 91
26. Calais Campbell* DE Miami 91
27. Felix Jones* RB Arkansas 91
28. Kenny Phillips* S Miami 91
29. Fred Davis TE USC 91
30. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tenn. St. 91
31. Sam Baker OT USC 90
32. Devin Thomas* W

This is according to ESPN.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by QBall

Player Pos. School Grade
1. Darren McFadden* RB Arkansas 99
2. Chris Long DE Virginia 98
3. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU 98
4. Matt Ryan QB Boston Coll. 98
5. Jake Long OT Michigan 98
6. Sedrick Ellis DT USC 97
7. Ryan Clady* OT Boise St. 96
8. Leodis McKelvin CB Troy 96
9. Vernon Gholston* DE Ohio State 96
10. Malcolm Kelly* WR Oklahoma 96
11. Mike Jenkins CB S. Florida 95
12. DeSean Jackson* WR California 95
13. Rashard Mendenhall* RB Illinois 95
14. Aqib Talib* CB Kansas 94
15. Mario Manningham* WR Michigan 94
16. Derrick Harvey* DE Florida 94
17. Kentwan Balmer DT N. Carolina 94
18. Jonathan Stewart* RB Oregon 94
19. Limas Sweed WR Texas 93
20. Brian Brohm QB Louisville 93
21. Phillip Merling* DE Clemson 93
22. Keith Rivers OLB USC 93
23. Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt 92
24. Dan Connor OLB Penn State 92
25. Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh 91
26. Calais Campbell* DE Miami 91
27. Felix Jones* RB Arkansas 91
28. Kenny Phillips* S Miami 91
29. Fred Davis TE USC 91
30. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tenn. St. 91
31. Sam Baker OT USC 90
32. Devin Thomas* W

This is according to ESPN.

When did Devin Thomas make the top 32? Thats gonna suck if he doesnt fall down to where he is supposed to....to us in the 2nd round!

[Longtimefan]

Will have a better feel after Feb. 20-26

Round 1- Kentwan Balmer DT/ (UNC)
Round 2- Limas Sweed WR/ (Texas Longhorns)

[Dirtbag59]

Funny typo by ESPN Insider. They have Kenny Phillips listed at 302 poulds and running a 4.45 40. Man thats awesome a 302 pounder running in the 4.4's.

Top 30 Senior Defensive Back Prospects in 2008 NFL Draft
Player School Position Height Weight Speed
1. Mike Jenkins South Florida CB 6-0 200 4.49
2. Leodis McKelvin Troy CB 5-10 5/8 190 4.44
3. Aqib Talib Kansas CB 6-1 1/2 201 4.50
4. Brandon Flowers Virginia Tech CB 5-10 1/8 192 4.45
5. Kenny Phillips Miami S 6-1 3/4 302 4.45
6. Dominique Rogers-Cromartie Tennessee State CB 6-1 3/8 183 4.44
7. Reggie Smith Oklahoma CB 6-1 1/4 196 4.45
8. Tracy Porter Indiana CB 5-10 5/8 184 4.40
9. Patrick Lee Auburn CB 5-11 7/8 194 4.43
10. Dejuan Morgan N.C. State S 6-1 1/4 203 4.51
11. Antoine Cason Arizona CB 6-0 190 4.55
12. Chevis Jackson LSU CB 5-11 1/2 188 4.55
13. Charles Godfrey Iowa CB 5-11 3/4 207 5.30
14. Thomas DeCoud California S 6-1 1/2 196 4.56
15. Justin King Penn State CB 6-1 1/8 190 4.40
16. Jack Williams Kent State CB 5-8 5/8 181 4.29
17. Marcus Griffin Texas S 5-10 1/8 198 4.60
18. Terrell Thomas USC CB 6-0 3/8 197 4.47
19. Tyrell Johnson Arkansas State S 5-11 1/2 200 4.56
20. Trae Williams South Florida CB 5-9 1/4 193 4.45
21. D.J. Wolfe Oklahoma S 5-10 3/4 200 4.46
22. Tom Zbikowski Notre Dame S 5-11 1/8 209 4.55
23. Simeon Castille Alabama S 5-11 7/8 190 4.61
24. Tyvon Branch Connecticut CB 5-11 1/4 197 4.47
25. Jamie Silva Boston College S 5-11 205 4.60
26. Craig Steltz LSU S 6-1 210 4.61
27. DeJuan Tribble Boston College CB 5-8 1/2 190 4.50
28. Jonathan Hefney Tennessee S 5-8 1/4 192 4.45
29. Terrence Wheatley Colorado CB 5-9 3/8 187 4.41
30. Jamar Adams Michigan S 6-2 1/4 209 4.50

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Funny typo by ESPN Insider. They have Kenny Phillips listed at 302 poulds and running a 4.45 40. Man thats awesome a 302 pounder running in the 4.4's.

Top 30 Senior Defensive Back Prospects in 2008 NFL Draft
Player School Position Height Weight Speed
1. Mike Jenkins South Florida CB 6-0 200 4.49
2. Leodis McKelvin Troy CB 5-10 5/8 190 4.44
3. Aqib Talib Kansas CB 6-1 1/2 201 4.50
4. Brandon Flowers Virginia Tech CB 5-10 1/8 192 4.45
5. Kenny Phillips Miami S 6-1 3/4 302 4.45
6. Dominique Rogers-Cromartie Tennessee State CB 6-1 3/8 183 4.44
7. Reggie Smith Oklahoma CB 6-1 1/4 196 4.45
8. Tracy Porter Indiana CB 5-10 5/8 184 4.40
9. Patrick Lee Auburn CB 5-11 7/8 194 4.43
10. Dejuan Morgan N.C. State S 6-1 1/4 203 4.51
11. Antoine Cason Arizona CB 6-0 190 4.55
12. Chevis Jackson LSU CB 5-11 1/2 188 4.55
13. Charles Godfrey Iowa CB 5-11 3/4 207 5.30
14. Thomas DeCoud California S 6-1 1/2 196 4.56
15. Justin King Penn State CB 6-1 1/8 190 4.40
16. Jack Williams Kent State CB 5-8 5/8 181 4.29
17. Marcus Griffin Texas S 5-10 1/8 198 4.60
18. Terrell Thomas USC CB 6-0 3/8 197 4.47
19. Tyrell Johnson Arkansas State S 5-11 1/2 200 4.56
20. Trae Williams South Florida CB 5-9 1/4 193 4.45
21. D.J. Wolfe Oklahoma S 5-10 3/4 200 4.46
22. Tom Zbikowski Notre Dame S 5-11 1/8 209 4.55
23. Simeon Castille Alabama S 5-11 7/8 190 4.61
24. Tyvon Branch Connecticut CB 5-11 1/4 197 4.47
25. Jamie Silva Boston College S 5-11 205 4.60
26. Craig Steltz LSU S 6-1 210 4.61
27. DeJuan Tribble Boston College CB 5-8 1/2 190 4.50
28. Jonathan Hefney Tennessee S 5-8 1/4 192 4.45
29. Terrence Wheatley Colorado CB 5-9 3/8 187 4.41
30. Jamar Adams Michigan S 6-2 1/4 209 4.50

look ma, a 5.3 40...

where oh where did the editors go?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by That Guy

look ma, a 5.3 40...

where oh where did the editors go?

It's probably because he doesn't weigh enough. If he could just gain about 93 pounds then he'd be able to get into that 4.4 range like Kenny Phillips. Another hundred pounds could push him up to the 3.6's.

[TheSmurfs22]

Mark me down for Campbell as well.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

Mark me down for Campbell as well.

I like Campbell to. As I stated earlier the guy has had a season where he's gotten 10.5 sacks and this past year he had a down year with 6.5 sacks (hell of a down year). In my opinion hes probably hungry to regain that 10 sack form. And on top of that hes big enough to move inside with Phillip Daniels on Third and long. Also with Greg Blache on his ass he'll be able to push harder then he did last year.

Of course Vinny Cerato says that we're looking for an interior prescence so right now I see us going after either Chad Johnson or Kentwan Balmer. Unless of course Malcom Kelly falls to us, especially considering that Vinny see's him as a top 15 pick.