Baltimore Cop vs kid

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by jsarno

This has got to be one of the most ignorant posts I have seen, and it's screams cop hater.
My neighbor to the right is a Sheriff, neighbor across the street is City police, and I have 5 close friends that are involved with some for of law enforcement. (7 total in state police / sheriff / or city) Not a single one of them is power hungry. They are great people that I bar-b-que with, drink occasion beers with and have a good time. They have very difficult jobs, and do their jobs with a TON of restraint. You should put yourselves in their shoes for 2 seconds. You have not one freakin clue what these guys go through on a day to day basis.
I am not defending the guy in the video, he acted out of line, but he has some truth to his comments. Kids do not treat police with respect, and I can only assume you are a kid with a comment like "the kid should have just asked him to leave him alone and left." What kind of nonsense is that? The kid SHOULD have apologized to the officer and stop calling him dude. To me, there were two people in the wrong in that video. The cop was absolutely wrong by throwing the kid down, and the kid was wrong by not listening and abiding by what the cop wanted. It would have went a whole lot smoother if the kid wasn't being a little punk...and I'm sure there was more to the video than what we saw.
This is a good tool for listening to people talk about the police, if you have ever been arrested and you have something bad to say about the police, you should be ignored. 99 times out of 100, it's your fault, and you escalated the situation with your mouth.
Sure there are bad apples in law enforcement, but they are few and far between.

I lean to the right when it comes to crime and punishment and I think most offenses (depending on the situation) should be punished.. Pretty severely. But all I see in this video is a 14 year old kid, being a 14 year old kid. If he was 16 or 17 then I could understand what you're saying but kids are in no way like the kids of the 70s and 80s where they were brought up with respect.

This kid is like a cupcake compared to the kids I had to deal with in high school. Those kids that went to the public school up the street from me.. Inner city kids. It was a scary thing.

[CobraKaiDojo]

If your knowingly breaking the law and a police officer gives you a warning to stop. Then comes back later and finds you still doing it. He should have the right to kick the s*** out of your dumbass. You were warned! If the kid had just relinquished his board, the cop wouldn't have had to put his butt in the dirt. That guy puts his life on the line everyday to work in Baltimore City, and for his trouble he gets to be disrespected by punk kids. Shame on their parents for not teaching them better.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by CobraKaiDojo

If your knowingly breaking the law and a police officer gives you a warning to stop. Then comes back later and finds you still doing it. He should have the right to kick the s*** out of your dumbass. You were warned! If the kid had just relinquished his board, the cop wouldn't have had to put his butt in the dirt. That guy puts his life on the line everyday to work in Baltimore City, and for his trouble he gets to be disrespected by punk kids. Shame on their parents for not teaching them better.

sure... remember spiderman... great power/great responsibility, and so on? there's protocol in place for those events. Grabbing the kid and forcing him to the ground is not in that protocol. Physical force was used on a kid (yes a punk, but still a kid) by an adult. Yes an adult. I expect any member of a community to use better judgment and act like a mature individual. If cops go around kicking the shit out of everybody it would have the opposite effect than you would think. It would be total chaos.

If the guy lets some 14 year old kids get to him so that he loses his cool and lets his emotions overtake him, what's he going to do when he has a real criminal in his face? You have to have composure. There's a major psychological aspect to that job and if you lose your composure you lose control, and that's when people get hurt. the guy's a danger and needs to be writing parking tickets, if he can handle that...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

sure... remember spiderman... great power/great responsibility, and so on? there's protocol in place for those events. Grabbing the kid and forcing him to the ground is not in that protocol. Physical force was used on a kid (yes a punk, but still a kid) by an adult. Yes an adult. I expect any member of a community to use better judgment and act like a mature individual. If cops go around kicking the shit out of everybody it would have the opposite effect than you would think. It would be total chaos.

If the guy lets some 14 year old kids get to him so that he loses his cool and lets his emotions overtake him, what's he going to do when he has a real criminal in his face? You have to have composure. There's a major psychological aspect to that job and if you lose your composure you lose control, and that's when people get hurt. the guy's a danger and needs to be writing parking tickets, if he can handle that...

Good post. And about the responsiblity falling on the kid's parents, is it the same kid who at the start of the video says he doesn't have a father?

There are plenty of good cops, but this guy isn't one of them. Better said, maybe he is but in this case he certainly didn't act like one. True, we didn't see the whole story but it's hard to believe anything happened that warranted the cop's actions.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Good post. And about the responsiblity falling on the kid's parents, is it the same kid who at the start of the video says he doesn't have a father?

There are plenty of good cops, but this guy isn't one of them. Better said, maybe he is but in this case he certainly didn't act like one. True, we didn't see the whole story but it's hard to believe anything happened that warranted the cop's actions.

The guy wouldn't be suspended (likely) if he didn't touch the kid. He really made a poor choice there.
We all have days we wish we could take back. This guy could have been a great cop for his whole career, but something happened today...who knows. Grabbing the kid just wasn't wise at all...that's where the situation went bad.
I just hope someone takes that kid (off camera of course) and smacks some sense into him, cause now he thinks he can take on cops with no repercussions. He was just taught he can say and do just about anything to authority and he'll get away with it, and moreover, the authority will "appear" to be in the wrong. That's a horrible lesson.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I lean to the right when it comes to crime and punishment and I think most offenses (depending on the situation) should be punished.. Pretty severely. But all I see in this video is a 14 year old kid, being a 14 year old kid. If he was 16 or 17 then I could understand what you're saying but kids are in no way like the kids of the 70s and 80s where they were brought up with respect.

This kid is like a cupcake compared to the kids I had to deal with in high school. Those kids that went to the public school up the street from me.. Inner city kids. It was a scary thing.

I have no doubt it would have escalated to a disgusting level had it been with one of those inner city kids you speak of.

So where has all the respect gone?