F... US voting bureaucracy

[Daseal]

So god forbid a majority of the PEOPLE elect a president? Are you sure? Yes, North Dakota would miss out on campaigning. I realize what a shame that is, but how many people actually go to campaign events to decide who to vote for? Has anyone on this board gone to a campaign event and changed their mind? I doubt it. We have all the information easily available via the internet now. Campaigning is more of a pep rally than a way to bring people over to your side.

I don't understand why you're equating land mass to population. If a MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE (aka the welfare crowd as you ignorantly put) want a candidate, why should the less than 2 million people in north dakota have such a big impact?

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Daseal

So god forbid a majority of the PEOPLE elect a president? Are you sure? Yes, North Dakota would miss out on campaigning. I realize what a shame that is, but how many people actually go to campaign events to decide who to vote for? Has anyone on this board gone to a campaign event and changed their mind? I doubt it. We have all the information easily available via the internet now. Campaigning is more of a pep rally than a way to bring people over to your side.

I don't understand why you're equating land mass to population. If a MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE (aka the welfare crowd as you ignorantly put) want a candidate, why should the less than 2 million people in north dakota have such a big impact?

this is a great point. its called making numbers look any way you want them to.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Daseal

So god forbid a majority of the PEOPLE elect a president? Are you sure? Yes, North Dakota would miss out on campaigning. I realize what a shame that is, but how many people actually go to campaign events to decide who to vote for? Has anyone on this board gone to a campaign event and changed their mind? I doubt it. We have all the information easily available via the internet now. Campaigning is more of a pep rally than a way to bring people over to your side.

I don't understand why you're equating land mass to population. If a MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE (aka the welfare crowd as you ignorantly put) want a candidate, why should the less than 2 million people in north dakota have such a big impact?

I think it is less about campaigning and more about avoiding politicians making sure ALL the money and benefits our gov't can offer going to only those places with high population density. If we went straight popular vote and I were a politician willing do whatever it took to get elected I'd make sure NY, LA Chicago, etc... KNEW I was looking out for them specifically. That's what the elctoral college seeks to do...avoid making certain people voiceless.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I don't understand why you're equating land mass to population. If a MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE (aka the welfare crowd as you ignorantly put) want a candidate, why should the less than 2 million people in north dakota have such a big impact?

Take a look at the POPULATION WON on the 2004 map. The candidate that absolutely cleaned house on area won ALSO won the popular vote, proving the system works.

I think you're just bitter that the majority of the nation elected someone you don't like.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Buster

Take a look at the POPULATION WON on the 2004 map. The candidate that absolutely cleaned house on area won ALSO won the popular vote, proving the system works.

I think you're just bitter that the majority of the nation elected someone you don't like.

Buster although I understand what you are saying, I don't think the argument was brought up in a bias way. I also think you are quick to try to disprove anything that doesn't jive with your political alignment. At least in my opinion you always seem to be aching for an argument and/or yelling match.

Your point is valid in this case, but it could completely be possible that that a candidate wins on area, and not population. I think the point here is we are not all equal based on the electoral system but rather the goal is to balance area. I think that is a huge distinction to that what we are taught in grade school.