Which Current NFL Receiver Is Best for Us?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

ARE cannot be traded or released this off-season without incurring an $ 8.8M cap hit. Taking his salary off the books in only $ 2.7M, so we have a "dead-cap" number of $6.1M and we need to replace him. Not gonna happen.

WOW...where do you find that kind of info? I didn't think it would hurt us that much to trade him, just release him.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by jsarno

WOW...where do you find that kind of info? I didn't think it would hurt us that much to trade him, just release him.

All the cap info is in the drop-down under Team at the top of the site. Any guaranteed money needs to count against the cap for either a trade or release. Otherwise you could have teams playing major games in trades to circumvent the salary cap.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

All the cap info is in the drop-down under Team at the top of the site. Any guaranteed money needs to count against the cap for either a trade or release. Otherwise you could have teams playing major games in trades to circumvent the salary cap.

Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't know it was there.
How did you come up with that figure on ARE then? Did you add this year's cap hit with next?
Also, how did you know what his cap hit would be if we straight cut him?

What would Lloyd's hit be if we cut / trade him?

(not understanding how you're getting those figures.)

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't know it was there.
How did you come up with that figure on ARE then? Did you add this year's cap hit with next?
Also, how did you know what his cap hit would be if we straight cut him?

What would Lloyd's hit be if we cut / trade him?

(not understanding how you're getting those figures.)

Look under the release fees tab, it will tell you how much a players' cap hit would be if released or traded

http://www.redskinswarpath.com/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Look under the release fees tab, it will tell you how much a players' cap hit would be if released or traded

http://www.redskinswarpath.com/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm

That's where I went to look at the cap numbers (after slingin sammy told me to go there)...it appears that ARE's cap hit would be only 2.7 mil. Is that correct? Like I said, I feel like I am missing something cause I am not a capologist. I'm trying to learn more about this.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

That's where I went to look at the cap numbers (after slingin sammy told me to go there)...it appears that ARE's cap hit would be only 2.7 mil. Is that correct? Like I said, I feel like I am missing something cause I am not a capologist. I'm trying to learn more about this.

Nope, take his release fee of $8.82M - 2008 salary of $2.724M = $6.158M cap hit.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't know it was there.
How did you come up with that figure on ARE then? Did you add this year's cap hit with next?
Also, how did you know what his cap hit would be if we straight cut him?

What would Lloyd's hit be if we cut / trade him?

(not understanding how you're getting those figures.)

At the bottom of the link you will see "Release Fees". Click on that tab and you will see the player's salary and release fee. If a player is released or traded the cap for that year will be hit with the "Release Fee", but the player's salary is then off the cap. So for ARE you wind up with $ 6.1M in dead-cap. Sometimes you have the June 1 cuts which I believe are allowed to be spread over two cap seasons, but the total Release Fee amount must be accounted for.

Lloyd's release fee is $ 7.1M, his salary is $ 4.2M, dead cap will be $ 2.9M, much more manageable, especially when he was completely non-productive.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

At the bottom of the link you will see "Release Fees". Click on that tab and you will see the player's salary and release fee. If a player is released or traded the cap for that year will be hit with the "Release Fee", but the player's salary is then off the cap. So for ARE you wind up with $ 6.1M in dead-cap. Sometimes you have the June 1 cuts which I believe are allowed to be spread over two cap seasons, but the total Release Fee amount must be accounted for.

Lloyd's release fee is $ 7.1M, his salary is $ 4.2M, dead cap will be $ 2.9M, much more manageable, especially when he was completely non-productive.

OK, thanks...I think I get it now. I didn't even see those tabs the first time, I appreciate you pointing it out. I do have a couple questions:

I if they get traded does the same release fee apply???

I am also curious as to how it works for those with a smaller release fee than salary...does that mean we get that many back towards the cap?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I if they get traded does the same release fee apply???

I am also curious as to how it works for those with a smaller release fee than salary...does that mean we get that many back towards the cap?

1) Yes

2) Yes, for example if Phillip Daniels was released there would be a charge of $ 770K, but his salary of $ 3.7M would come off the books. A net cap savings of about $ 3M.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

1) Yes

Well, that sucks. LOL.

2) Yes, for example if Phillip Daniels was released there would be a charge of $ 770K, but his salary of $ 3.7M would come off the books. A net cap savings of about $ 3M.

WOW...so why haven't we dropped Brunell? That would save us 3.4 mil.
For that matter, why not Daniels too? Between the two that would save us 6.387 mil for dead weight!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

WOW...where do you find that kind of info? I didn't think it would hurt us that much to trade him, just release him.

Releasing him would result in a cap hit as well.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Releasing him would result in a cap hit as well.

That part I understand...I just didn't know that trading players left such a huge cap hit to us.
I do not make an effort at understanding the cap, I have just a very simplistic underdstanding of it. I need to learn more about now.