The Redskins' new approach to free agency

[prinzeofmoval]

im against it this year..normally we go off spending too much money on OLDER over the hill players..but this year there was a fresh crop of good talent and i think we're taking a backseat so we won't be the "oh there goes the redskins spending again cliche"..bad move..sign good players and we'll be okay

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

im against it this year..normally we go off spending too much money on OLDER over the hill players..but this year there was a fresh crop of good talent and i think we're taking a backseat so we won't be the "oh there goes the redskins spending again cliche"..bad move..sign good players and we'll be okay

w/all due respect, it sounds as if your still stuck on the 2000 signings of Deion, Carrier, B. smith, etc.

Since then, what "over the hill" players have the Skins signed for big $? We've brought in some old vets at low prices, e.g. Godfrey, Fabini & Wade, but look at all the others we've signed, they're all under 30 & in their prime:

Coles, ARE, Loyd (no prime for this guy though, lol), Carter, Washington, Springs, Griffin, even Arch.

The only over 30 players we gave considerable $ to since 01 that I can think of are Phillip Daniels & Brunell, both aren't stars but IMO have been good contributors. Of courese more recently Collins, but we know he's got value for us.

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

w/all due respect, it sounds as if your still stuck on the 2000 signings of Deion, Carrier, B. smith, etc.

Since then, what "over the hill" players have the Skins signed for big $? We've brought in some old vets at low prices, e.g. Godfrey, Fabini & Wade, but look at all the others we've signed, they're all under 30 & in their prime:

Coles, ARE, Loyd (no prime for this guy though, lol), Carter, Washington, Springs, Griffin, even Arch.

The only over 30 players we gave considerable $ to since 01 that I can think of are Phillip Daniels & Brunell, both aren't stars but IMO have been good contributors. Of courese more recently Collins, but we know he's got value for us.

i'm more concerned about dropping the ball on good talent..in my eyes the best pick-up trade or FA is clinton portis and springs..Carter had a good season but lets call a spade a spade.Arch,Lloyd and even Brunell(in my eyes cost us more games then won)are noteable bad choices. I'm just saying if there was a time to spend its now.

[QBall]

Michael Turner got:

The deal is worth $34.5 million with approximately $15 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.com's Michael Smith.

He's never had more than 500 yards rushing in one season. Vinny and Co. are looking very good right now. These prices are insane!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by QBall

Michael Turner got:

The deal is worth $34.5 million with approximately $15 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.com's Michael Smith.

He's never had more than 500 yards rushing in one season. Vinny and Co. are looking very good right now. These prices are insane!

Well look who he has been stuck behind his entire career. When he has seen the field he is averaging 5.5 yards per carry. I'd say the deal is high but it could be a steel if he works out.

[QBall]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well look who he has been stuck behind his entire career. When he has seen the field he is averaging 5.5 yards per carry. I'd say the deal is high but it could be a steel if he works out.

No doubt about it. Just a very high price tag for a maybe. I"m not sure if he's an everydown, go to back. Atlanta did have Dunn so I guess they view Turner as a younger upgrade who learned from LT.

In my opinion, he's not worth it and you can play with LT all you want there is nothing he can teach you to be that good, its natural ability and speed.

Atlanta will continue to suck!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by QBall

Michael Turner got:

The deal is worth $34.5 million with approximately $15 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.com's Michael Smith.

He's never had more than 500 yards rushing in one season. Vinny and Co. are looking very good right now. These prices are insane!

Turner's getting paid on his physical ability and potential. If you're Atl. you need some high character guys, and some guys that have talent. I like move. The contact is probably 15 mil over three years. That's not bad for a starting RB. Now they'd better go get a QB.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

i'm more concerned about dropping the ball on good talent..in my eyes the best pick-up trade or FA is clinton portis and springs..Carter had a good season but lets call a spade a spade.Arch,Lloyd and even Brunell(in my eyes cost us more games then won)are noteable bad choices. I'm just saying if there was a time to spend its now.

I certainly agree that some of the moves, particularly Arch & Loyd, have backfired to say the least. We can debate Brunell, but that's already been done too much here.

My only point is about the age of players we've acquired, and I stick to what I said; that since the famed 2000 season, we haven't signed many old players to noteworthy contracts, mainly just cheap depth signings.

I think this offseason will be a good example of that as well, we may sign some 30-somethings, but it will be for 1-2 years & close to our beloved VET MIN!

[redwagonskins]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

im against it this year..normally we go off spending too much money on OLDER over the hill players..but this year there was a fresh crop of good talent and i think we're taking a backseat so we won't be the "oh there goes the redskins spending again cliche"..bad move..sign good players and we'll be okay

I guess the front office is damned if they do, damned if they don't. When we go out a sign "young talent" ala Lloyd and Archuletta, they're morons. When we sit on the sidelines rather than giving Justin Smith (2 sacks) ridiculous money or trading picks for Jonathan Vilma (43 tackles last year) then they're morons. I am curious what truly worthwhile "young talent" is out there for good value and that would fit a "need" in this roster? Is it Calvin Pace at $22 million guaranteed? Asante Samuel at $9.5 million a year?

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by redwagonskins

I guess the front office is damned if they do, damned if they don't. When we go out a sign "young talent" ala Lloyd and Archuletta, they're morons. When we sit on the sidelines rather than giving Justin Smith (2 sacks) ridiculous money or trading picks for Jonathan Vilma (43 tackles last year) then they're morons. I am curious what truly worthwhile "young talent" is out there for good value and that would fit a "need" in this roster? Is it Calvin Pace at $22 million guaranteed? Asante Samuel at $9.5 million a year?

well you can't fault Vilma..he's been hurt most of the last two seasons. Really the Archuletta thing is to each his own.I like adam when he was with the rams and thought he would be the second coming on John Lynch..I would've bit on that one