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Originally Posted by angryssg

He brought up his completion percentage to 60%, but he stiil threw 12 TD's and 11 INT's. His QB rating was only 77. He needs to get through his progressions quicker, get rid of the ball quicker, deliver the deep ball more accurately, stop forcing the ball in the redzone and learn a new offense this offseason. That is a task, hence the words "light years away". It was a bit of an exaggeration, but so were the words "on the verge" IMO. How about we compromise and say "still developing with promise".

Moss was injured a couple of times and had the worst game of his life @ Green Bay. However, Todd Collins, a career backup had over a 100 QB rating through 4 games with the same corps of WR's. Todd Collins by no means has all of the physical tools that Campbell does, but he is more seasoned. Collins is nowhere near being one of the better QB's in the league, but right now he has a leg up on our beloved Campbell.

The bottom line is I want Campbell to succeed and be of the same caliber as Peyton, Rothlisberger, McNabb or Brady. Simply put it is going to take more time.

Good points, but I still think if you look at the three game stretch from Philly to TB you see a QB really close to being very good. You will likely bring up the costly INTs at Dallas and at Tampa that ended those games, but that is the hurdle he needs to cross. Winning games in the fourth quarter is the toughest thing to do and one of the last real progressions for NFL QBs. We saw what happened to Todd Collins when the ball was in his hand and he had to go win a game sans a running game during the Playoffs. He ended up looking a lot like Campbell did. Campbell has some development left, certainly, but I think you aren't really giving him enough credit for the development he showed from 2006 to 2007 and then during the course of 2007. I am concerned about the new offense (you saw how Phillip Rivers struggled this year, even though the offense was more or less the same but with Norv calling the plays). I guess we are actually pretty close in our opinions, but with a different tone to similar points.

Campbell

Philly 23-34, 67.6%, 215 yards, 3 tds, 0 ints
Dallas 33-54, 61.1%, 348 yards, 2 tds, 1 int
Tampa 30-49, 61.2%, 301 yards, 1 td, 2 ints

86-137, 62.7%, 864 yards, 6 tds, 3 ints

Collins

NYG 8-25, 32%, 166 yards, 0 tds, 0 ints
Min 22-29, 75.9%, 254 yards, 2 tds, 0 ints
Dal 22-31, 71.0%, 244 yards, 1 td, 0 ints

52-85, 61.2%, 664 yards, 3 tds, 0 ints

Obviously the game against the Giants was very windy and difficult conditions. If I substituted the Seattle game the numbers look like:

73-110, 66.4%, 764, 5 tds, 2 ints

I'm not detracting from what Collins was able to do, but I think by comparing Collins performance to Campbells and saying it demonstrates the huge progress that still remains for Jason, you aren't giving proper credit to what Jason was doing in the three games prior to his injury (not counting Buffalo, because obviously that was a very unique situation). You also don't consider how much better the defense performed at the end of the year and the fact that Collins was never put in a position where he had to go out in the fourth quarter and win a game (or try to carry a team that was unable to run the football).

Personally, I think Jason demonstrated that he is closer than you suggest, but obviously the new offense will be a great challenge.