Roy Williams (WR) for a 2nd Round Pick?

[celts32]

Originally Posted by redwagonskins

A first and a third for a guy who has only played a full season once in four years? Last year Randle El played in 15 games, caught 51 passes for 728 yds at a 14.3 YPC clip. Keep in mind he's a #2 receiver here. Williams started 12 games, caught 64 for 838 which comes out to a 13.1 YPC average. He's had one great year and three very average years. A first and a third seem like a lot to give up on a guy who has proven to be fragile and has not proven to be a bona fide #1 receiver. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see what he could do for the Skins as well but I wouldn't give up the farm for this guy.

I think Roy Williams is going to be a star in the league. I see your numbers but they are numbers in Detroit with Martz & Kitna. He's still young...IMO he's worth the picks. We may end up spending the #1 pick on an unproven WR anyway...the extra #3 just ensures we get a good one.

[redwagonskins]

Originally Posted by celts32

I think Roy Williams is going to be a star in the league. I see your numbers but they are numbers in Detroit with Martz & Kitna. He's still young...IMO he's worth the picks. We may end up spending the #1 pick on an unproven WR anyway...the extra #3 just ensures we get a good one.

I hear you. I would just be a little gun-shy giving up 2 high round picks for a guy who has proven to be fragile (can't argue that) and blames his production on the system. He can't take the credit for his 1310 yd season (a season in which the Lions had two 1000+ receivers) and then blame the same system the next year (in which he was out gained by Shaun McDonald and was only a few yards ahead of rookie Calvin Johnson). I wouldn't mind picking him up for a 1 and a lower round pick but I think the team needs to hold on to their higher round picks.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by redwagonskins

I hear you. I would just be a little gun-shy giving up 2 high round picks for a guy who has proven to be fragile (can't argue that) and blames his production on the system. He can't take the credit for his 1310 yd season (a season in which the Lions had two 1000+ receivers) and then blame the same system the next year (in which he was out gained by Shaun McDonald and was only a few yards ahead of rookie Calvin Johnson). I wouldn't mind picking him up for a 1 and a lower round pick but I think the team needs to hold on to their higher round picks.

I would love to get him for less but if the Eagles offers are true then we will need to offer more then they are. Unless we have a player copmparable to Lito that we can include then we need to offer better draft picks.

I just can't believe they would take any offer from Philly that does not even include a #1...then again Matt Millen is on the other end of that phone.