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[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Jsarno,

I certainly agree that we should look beyond race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. But, the simple fact is that very few, if any, of us are actually color blind.

But, I don't quite follow your logic about whether someone is a person of color or not. You laughed at the idea that there are "shades of color." Yet, you also said Obama is not really black. Do you then think that Obama is white?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Jsarno,

I certainly agree that we should look beyond race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. But, the simple fact is that very few, if any, of us are actually color blind.

But, I don't quite follow your logic about whether someone is a person of color or not. You laughed at the idea that there are "shades of color." Yet, you also said Obama is not really black. Do you then think that Obama is white?

Nope...he's neither. He's just a man named Obama.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Nope...he's neither. He's just a man named Obama.

You've recognized in the past that people are black or white. All of the sudden you're color blind? Come on, you can't honestly say, he's not black AND shades of black/white are silly.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

You've recognized in the past that people are black or white. All of the sudden you're color blind? Come on, you can't honestly say, he's not black AND shades of black/white are silly.

Not really...but I will use terms that you all use. How else would you know who I was talking about?
Also, when he's 50% of both, he is neither, or both...whatever. If you must use a label, try malatto (sp?).

Why does it even matter? Why do you insist on labels?

If a dog is 100% pug, then he's a pug, yet if he's 50% pug, and 50% pomeranian, then he's a mutt. Not a pug.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Not really...but I will use terms that you all use. How else would you know who I was talking about?
Also, when he's 50% of both, he is neither, or both...whatever. If you must use a label, try malatto (sp?).

Why does it even matter? Why do you insist on labels?

If a dog is 100% pug, then he's a pug, yet if he's 50% pug, and 50% pomeranian, then he's a mutt. Not a pug.

If I ever saw a dog that was half pug, half pom, it'd either be severely cute or punished ugly.

Just lightening the tension.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

If I ever saw a dog that was half pug, half pom, it'd either be severely cute or punished ugly.

Just lightening the tension.

haha...yeah...true. There are some strange combo's out there though.

I actually don't see the point of continuing this conversation, it's going down a bad road, and it appears some can't see any other way of looking at things, and that's thier choice. No biggy. Anything about race is taboo in our country, you can't even talk about it without offending people. To me, there is only 1 solution, that's to break down that barrier. But I understand how others might not be ready, and some not willing.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by jsarno

haha...yeah...true. There are some strange combo's out there though.

I actually don't see the point of continuing this conversation, it's going down a bad road, and it appears some can't see any other way of looking at things, and that's thier choice. No biggy. Anything about race is taboo in our country, you can't even talk about it without offending people. To me, there is only 1 solution, that's to break down that barrier. But I understand how others might not be ready, and some not willing.

3 Things you can't talk about with people: Race, religion, politics. Or as I was told, "The 3 things you shouldn't talk about at the dinner table."

You're gonna end up pissing off people no matter what side you take when it comes to those things.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Why does it even matter? Why do you insist on labels?

I'm not sure when you became color blind. You once commented on how most black QBs are scrambling QBs. You also said the only reason why people were defending Ty Willingham after he got fired was because he was black. You also said that the NBA discriminates against whites. You also noted that the Dems "are throwing every kind of minority into the ring" (referring to Richardson, Obama, and Hillary). The point being that we all see color whether we want to or not, including you and me.

In any event, I agree that the only way to end race problems is to start breaking down barriers. To that end, interracial key party at jsarno's place tomorrow night at 5:00. I'll bring the drinks.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I'm not sure when you became color blind. You once commented on how most black QBs are scrambling QBs. You also said the only reason why people were defending Ty Willingham after he got fired was because he was black. You also said that the NBA discriminates against whites. You also noted that the Dems "are throwing every kind of minority into the ring" (referring to Richardson, Obama, and Hillary). The point being that we all see color whether we want to or not, including you and me.

In any event, I agree that the only way to end race problems is to start breaking down barriers. To that end, interracial key party at jsarno's place tomorrow night at 5:00. I'll bring the drinks.

You obviously ignored this:

By the way, there is a huge difference between seeing shades of COLOR, and using color as a means of separation.

I never once said I was "color blind", you said it. I said I don't see color in people. I see the actual color of their skin, but that means nothing to me. (is that a better explanation for you since you seem hell bent on going on and on and on about this?)

I am uncertain as to why you brought all those up other than you are not understanding what I am saying. Am I not supposed to recognize racism? I am aware it exists, and I recognize how people treat each other.
Like I said, there is a big difference between seeing shades of color, and using color as a means of separation.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I never once said I was "color blind", you said it. I said I don't see color in people. I see the actual color of their skin, but that means nothing to me.

As you noted, you said, "I don't see color." I don't see how that's any different than being color blind, but maybe I have a fuzzy understanding of what "color blind" means. But, I'm not "hell bent" on going on and on about this issue. I was just trying to clarify your position.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I'm not sure when you became color blind. You once commented on how most black QBs are scrambling QBs. You also said the only reason why people were defending Ty Willingham after he got fired was because he was black. You also said that the NBA discriminates against whites. You also noted that the Dems "are throwing every kind of minority into the ring" (referring to Richardson, Obama, and Hillary). The point being that we all see color whether we want to or not, including you and me.

In any event, I agree that the only way to end race problems is to start breaking down barriers. To that end, interracial key party at jsarno's place tomorrow night at 5:00. I'll bring the drinks.

Damn SGG, backing up your shit! Can't hate on that. *fist pound*