Sean Taylor in drunk tank

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by irish

With all the wam-pum he has you think he could have sprung for a taxi or limo to give him a lift home.

I think he just beat out LaVar for dumbest redskin move of the year.

what did lavar do?

[SmootSmack]

I agree with FRPLG. It was a stupid mistake but this incident should not be a judgement of his character. Anyway, Joe Gibbs is expected to hold a 1:30 press conference on the matter-not sure if it will be streamed. While I doubt he'll cut Taylor like he did Kevin Ware it is possible he'll bench him. I think more than likely he'll not start him, but he'll still play.

[EEich]

How does one judge someone's character if not by his actions? You are what you do.
Being out at 2:45 the night before practice is a choice, not a mistake.
I'm not saying that his character won't mature... but he is what he is.

Originally Posted by smootsmack

I agree with FRPLG. It was a stupid mistake but this incident should not be a judgement of his character. Anyway, Joe Gibbs is expected to hold a 1:30 press conference on the matter-not sure if it will be streamed. While I doubt he'll cut Taylor like he did Kevin Ware it is possible he'll bench him. I think more than likely he'll not start him, but he'll still play.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by EEich

How does one judge someone's character if not by his actions? You are what you do.
Being out at 2:45 the night before practice is a choice, not a mistake.
I'm not saying that his character won't mature... but he is what he is.

I understand what you're saying. Maybe I've just been misinterpreting a lot of what has been written. People seem to want to just write him off permanently for this error. Good people make bad choices.

Disclaimer: My best friend is serving 15 years for the same offense. He made a terrible mistake, ended up in a head-on collision and the driver of the other car died instantly. It was inexcusable what he did and he knows it, but I guess I get a little sensitive when he's labeled a bad person for this incident. He was pretty well known in his town so he was instantly admonished in public and all the good he had done was quickly forgotten because of his actions on one night.

[EEich]

I'm sorry about your friend... that's terrible for everyone involved.
Your sensitivity is understandable.

Originally Posted by smootsmack

I understand what you're saying. Maybe I've just been misinterpreting a lot of what has been written. People seem to want to just write him off permanently for this error. Good people make bad choices.

Disclaimer: My best friend is serving 15 years for the same offense. He made a terrible mistake, ended up in a head-on collision and the driver of the other car died instantly. It was inexcusable what he did and he knows it, but I guess I get a little sensitive when he's labeled a bad person for this incident. He was pretty well known in his town so he was instantly admonished in public and all the good he had done was quickly forgotten because of his actions on one night.

[sportscurmudgeon]

I'm afraid that the best word to describe Sean Taylor is:


MEATHEAD !!


For all of you who think this is something that can be mitigated because of his age and his wealth, please explain to me why this has not happened to each and every rich young player to come into the NFL. If it is inevitable for a young rich guy to get in this trouble then why didn't it happen to guys like Darrell Green, Payton Manning, Donovan McNabb, John Elway, Dan Marino, Champ Bailey - - and the list goes on.

And by the way, the legislature that passed the law that makes driving after consuming alcohol a crime and the governor who signed that bill NEVER once considered putting in a waiver for young rich football players. He does not get a free ride for this and he shouldn't.

Taylor will get off with his wrist slapped by the court unless he does something even dumber than anything he has done in the past such as walking into the court and flipping off the judge. Given what he's done since being drafted, that is a low probability event, but NOT impossible.

His first substance abuse screw up does not get him any heavy-duty punishment from the league, but it does mean that he must be monitored for substance-abuse "issues" from here on. He will get more frequent testing; and if he is dumb enough to get caught again, he could be looking at four games in the owner's box.

Is he dumb enough to do this again? I used to work with a PhD psychologist who said over and over again that the single best determinant for an individual's future behavior is the past behavior of that same individual. So let me ask again, is he dumb enough to do this again? Yes he is. Will he be unlucky enough to get caught again? That is the real question.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by smootsmack

I agree with FRPLG. It was a stupid mistake but this incident should not be a judgement of his character. Anyway,...

I disagree. Drunk driving is a serious problem. too many people are in danger by simply driving home at night by these fools that have self control problems.

my biggest nightmare is killing someone while driving drunk, i dont think i could live with myself. so, the solution is simple, i dont drive drunk EVER!. im not trying to say im better then drunk drivers... well yeah i am. piss on you cowards that drive drunk.

[frogprincess]

Originally Posted by jamf

I disagree. Drunk driving is a serious problem. too many people are in danger by simply driving home at night by these fools that have self control problems.

my biggest nightmare is killing someone while driving drunk, i dont think i could live with myself. so, the solution is simple, i dont drive drunk EVER!. im not trying to say im better then drunk drivers... well yeah i am. piss on you cowards that drive drunk.

Thank you, and thanks to Lady T. And to the person whose friend is in jail for killing someone while driving drunk, I agree that it's terrible that his life may be ruined by that one mistake. I must say, however, that my feelings go out to his victim's family more.

I thought there were programs in the NFL, and mentors on the teams, who were supposed to help these college kids with the transition to "fame and fortune?"

[MTK]

Originally Posted by frogprincess

I thought there were programs in the NFL, and mentors on the teams, who were supposed to help these college kids with the transition to "fame and fortune?"

There is but at some point it comes down to being responsible for your own actions. They can't babysit Taylor 24 hours a day.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by frogprincess

Thank you, and thanks to Lady T. And to the person whose friend is in jail for killing someone while driving drunk, I agree that it's terrible that his life may be ruined by that one mistake. I must say, however, that my feelings go out to his victim's family more.

I thought there were programs in the NFL, and mentors on the teams, who were supposed to help these college kids with the transition to "fame and fortune?"

I think that would be the Rookie Symposium that Taylor skipped. As for my friend, undoubtedly the loss of the victim's family is much greater.