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Old 10-28-2004, 06:36 PM   #1
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Old 10-28-2004, 07:07 PM   #2
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kerry has voted against every single military spending bill since he first joined congress... he's also planning on enlarging the military (which should be done, contractors are too expensive), but that was something he just started saying recently and hasn't gone along with his record or military poverty...

not trying to start flames or anything, but this is a pretty important point to consider when you say kerry is pro military...
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Old 10-28-2004, 07:09 PM   #3
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vote for your guy, root for the skins and either hope the record stays or goes...
no need to play with your allegiances...
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Old 10-28-2004, 07:22 PM   #4
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Lord have mercy...I want to comment but I'm resisting temptation.
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Old 10-28-2004, 07:34 PM   #5
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Old 10-28-2004, 07:27 PM   #6
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its not like he changed his mind for no reason
if by reason you mean opinion polls, then you're absolutely right

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Old 10-29-2004, 03:01 AM   #7
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if by reason you mean opinion polls, then you're absolutely right

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Absofreekinlutly!

Of coarse Kerry also stated that Iraq had WMD's, and so long as Sadam was in power he was a threat to the US, but that was before he felt he had to take an adversarial role in an attempt to become president, hey screw the troop's, screw the safety of America, and to hell with truth and honesty, John Kerry want's to be president, everything else is secondary.
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Old 10-28-2004, 08:35 PM   #8
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hey if someone makes a comment like that, then i am going to respond...
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Old 10-28-2004, 10:56 PM   #9
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Yep in my football pool I picked the Packers, hoping to reverse that curse! Go Kerry!!!!
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Old 10-29-2004, 09:44 AM   #10
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Word! djnemo65, you're right on. This admin is SO wrong on SO many levels
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Old 10-29-2004, 12:40 PM   #11
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DGN and D15, Boy's you couldn't be more convoluted in your thinking, but that is why the left lies as they do they never underestimate the ignorance of there constituency, here's just a little tidbit of the hypocrisy of the left and rest assured there's plenty more!



> >
> > > I'm trying to get all this political stuff straightened out in my head
> > > so I'll know how to vote come November. Right now, we have one guy
> > > saying one thing. Then the other guy says something else. Who to
> > > believe.
> > > Lemme see; have I got this straight?
> > >
> > > Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good...
> > > Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad...
> > >
> > > Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good...
> > > Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad...
> > >
> > > Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good...
> > > Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...
> > >
> > > Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian
> > > terrorists-
> > > good...
> > > Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad...
> > >
> > > Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good...
> > > Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad...
> > >
> > > Clinton commits felonies while in office - good...
> > > Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad...
> > >
> > > No mass graves found in Serbia - good...
> > > No WMD found Iraq - bad...
> > >
> > > Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good...
> > > Economy on upswing under Bush - bad...
> > >
> > > Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good...
> > > World Trade Centers fall under Bush - bad...
> > >
> > > Clinton says Saddam has nukes - good...
> > > Bush says Saddam has nukes - bad...
> > >
> > > Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good...
> > > Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...
> > >
> > > Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton - good...
> > > Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad...
> > >
> > > Milosevic not yet convicted - good...
> > > Saddam turned over for trial - bad...
> > >
> > > Ahh, it's so confusing!
> > >
> > > Every year an independent tax watchdog group analyzes the average tax
> > > burden on Americans, and then calculates the "Tax Freedom Day". This is
> > > the day after which the money you earn goes to you, not the government.
> > > This year, tax freedom day was April 11th. That's the earliest it has
> > > been since 1991.
> > >
> > > It's latest day ever was May 2nd, which occurred in 2000. Notice
> > > anything special about those dates?
> > >
> > > Recently, John Kerry gave a speech in which he claimed Americans are
> > > actually paying more taxes under Bush, despite the tax cuts. He gave
> > > no explanation and provided no data for this claim.
> > >
> > > Another interesting fact: Both George Bush and John Kerry are wealthy
> > > men.
> > > Bush owns only one home, his ranch in Texas. Kerry owns 4 mansions, all
> > > worth several million dollars. (His ski resort home in Idaho is an old
> > > barn brought over from Europe in pieces. Not your average A-frame).
> > >
> > >
> > > Bush paid $250,000 in taxes this year; Kerry paid $90,000. Does that
> > > sound right? The man who wants to raise your taxes obviously has
> > > figured out a way to avoid paying his own.
> > >
> > > Pass this on. Only 44 days until the election.
> >
> >
> >


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Old 10-29-2004, 12:49 PM   #12
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You may want to check out this link as well, although I advise caution against it, I don't want to confuse you with the fact's.


http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...5519-3700r.htm
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:15 PM   #13
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You may want to check out this link as well, although I advise caution against it, I don't want to confuse you with the fact's.


http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...5519-3700r.htm
While you are at it check this one out: http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pr..._10_21_04.html

and this one: http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...0044474.htm?1c

troops apparently didn't search hard enough.
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:20 PM   #14
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Actually, their was tremendous opposition to the Kosovo operation from both the right and the left. Republicans who say you shouldn't criticize a president during war time should go look at the the things said about Clinton at that time. However, Iraq and Kosovo are not parallel situations. Kosovo was essentially a tactical air-strike conducted under NATO auspices, with multilateral support. The Iraq war, in contrast, was - and is - a unilateral ground operation requiring hundreds of thousands of troops, all of whom are needed in more crucial conflict zones (read Afghanistan). Also, Kosovo didn't increase anti-americanism in a terrorist breeding ground. Iraq has, as CIA reports corroborate. Over a thousand brave men and women have already died in Iraq. Less than 200 hundred died during the entire Kosovo operation. So they are not the same. But that's irrelevant anyway. We are not voting to reelect Clinton, so what does his record have to do with anything.
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Old 10-29-2004, 02:17 PM   #15
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Actually, their was tremendous opposition to the Kosovo operation from both the right and the left. Republicans who say you shouldn't criticize a president during war time should go look at the the things said about Clinton at that time. However, Iraq and Kosovo are not parallel situations. Kosovo was essentially a tactical air-strike conducted under NATO auspices, with multilateral support. The Iraq war, in contrast, was - and is - a unilateral ground operation requiring hundreds of thousands of troops, all of whom are needed in more crucial conflict zones (read Afghanistan). Also, Kosovo didn't increase anti-americanism in a terrorist breeding ground. Iraq has, as CIA reports corroborate. Over a thousand brave men and women have already died in Iraq. Less than 200 hundred died during the entire Kosovo operation. So they are not the same. But that's irrelevant anyway. We are not voting to reelect Clinton, so what does his record have to do with anything.

Clintons record comes into question because Kerry is running on the grounds that he will return the country to the form of the Clinton Administration...if you run on the premise of a former presidents record then that record becomes relevant...
On a side note, you guys hear Monica Lewinsky has publicly stated she is voting republican this election?.....
She said something about the democrats leaving a bad taste in her mouth...
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