Report: Hackett Agrees to Terms with Panthers

[Dirtyskin21]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Generally, I agree with your sentiments. Recognizing that even the good WR's don't make an immediate impact, to me, actually strengthens the need for us to address it sooner rather than later. The idea that UFA WR's give us something "we know what we are getting" does not strike me as necessarily true e.g. Lloyd and ARE (Is ARE a solid number 2? I would argue that we are entering the third year of his deal and the jury is still out on that).

I don't see us getting a game changer by trade or UFA. Plus, a 1st round WR would be the 3rd time since Monk and, of course, the 3rd time's a charm (Westbrook, Gardner) (D. Howard doesn't count he was KR - Yeah! that's the ticket!).

Again, generally, I agree with your sentiment. But, I think it's time to take another shot. If we do our homework, get a little lucky, we could be set for a long time. If not, if it gives us something to bitch about.

I'm tired of having things to btich about, I want to be able to tell a cowboy fan, giants fan, patriots fan, and colts fan that they suck, cus we won the superbowl. That's all i want.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Dirtyskin21

I'm tired of having things to btich about, I want to be able to tell a cowboy fan, giants fan, patriots fan, and colts fan that they suck, cus we won the superbowl. That's all i want.

As do we all, as do we all...

[BeastsoftheNFCeast]

Im really upset with us not signing him. I feel that he is more talented than all of our recievers. In his last season, he was on pace to have 1024 yards and 8 td's if he played every game, while moss was on pace to get 923 and 3 tds and randle el was on pace to get 777 yds and only 1 td. Randle El and Moss both are getting 5 mil a year with 10 mil signing bonuses. Hacket got a deal where he is getting 2.25 mil a year. We also cleared a bunch of space to sign a free agent this year, we should have commited to signing one because otherwise we shot ourselves in the foot by pushing all that money back and having a bunch of empty cap space. Once Lloyd is cut, we will have 10.2 mil in space to get 3 players signed (including the 2 players from the rule of 51). We could have and should have bought Hackett because he would cost less than our receivers, and has better numbers. Not to mention we made the cap space for it.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

Im really upset with us not signing him. I feel that he is more talented than all of our recievers. In his last season, he was on pace to have 1024 yards and 8 td's if he played every game, while moss was on pace to get 923 and 3 tds and randle el was on pace to get 777 yds and only 1 td. Randle El and Moss both are getting 5 mil a year with 10 mil signing bonuses. Hacket got a deal where he is getting 2.25 mil a year. We also cleared a bunch of space to sign a free agent this year, we should have commited to signing one because otherwise we shot ourselves in the foot by pushing all that money back and having a bunch of empty cap space. Once Lloyd is cut, we will have 10.2 mil in space to get 3 players signed (including the 2 players from the rule of 51). We could have and should have bought Hackett because he would cost less than our receivers, and has better numbers. Not to mention we made the cap space for it.

On pace is a term that is thrown around to often, if he had played in those games whose to say that he would have gotten yards or TDs. Whos to say that Moss wasnt going to blow up in a game that he didnt play in? The term "on pace" should be stricked from the english language.

[BeastsoftheNFCeast]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

On pace is a term that is thrown around to often, if he had played in those games whose to say that he would have gotten yards or TDs. Whos to say that Moss wasnt going to blow up in a game that he didnt play in? The term "on pace" should be stricked from the english language.

All right, then ignore the on pace thing. Hackett had 4 TD's in 7 games played (including the playoff game) which is more than our leading wide reciever and in under half the amount of games played (Moss had 3 in 15 games played including the playoff game)

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

All right, then ignore the on pace thing. Hackett had 4 TD's in 7 games played (including the playoff game) which is more than our leading wide reciever and in under half the amount of games played (Moss had 3 in 15 games played including the playoff game)

Wasn't there a season where Keyshawn had 102 catches but only 1 TD? Just because he had some touchdowns doesnt mean he would come in here and just beasting on everyone.

[BeastsoftheNFCeast]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Wasn't there a season where Keyshawn had 102 catches but only 1 TD? Just because he had some touchdowns doesnt mean he would come in here and just beasting on everyone.

First of all, TD's is the most important recieving stat, I don't care how many field goals a reciever sets up, a TD is more important. Second of all, TD's isnt his only stat where he is good. Over 7 games played (including the playoff game) he had 38 receptions (that's 5.5 receptions per game which is under 1 reception per game less than Keyshawns 102 catches) he also had 485 yards over 7 games played. That is averaging 70 yards per game. Santana Moss had 67 receptions over 15 games played (including the playoff game). That is 4.5 receptions per game, which is a larger difference from Hackett than Hackett was from Johnson. Moss had 876 yards over 15 games played which is 58 yards per game. That is 12 yards less than Hackett.

[SeanTaylor21]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

First of all, TD's is the most important recieving stat, I don't care how many field goals a reciever sets up, a TD is more important. Second of all, TD's isnt his only stat where he is good. Over 7 games played (including the playoff game) he had 38 receptions (that's 5.5 receptions per game which is under 1 reception per game less than Keyshawns 102 catches) he also had 485 yards over 7 games played. That is averaging 70 yards per game. Santana Moss had 67 receptions over 15 games played (including the playoff game). That is 4.5 receptions per game, which is a larger difference from Hackett than Hackett was from Johnson. Moss had 876 yards over 15 games played which is 58 yards per game. That is 12 yards less than Hackett.

It was 106 catches btw, and i don't care how much yardage or how many catches per game he had, because those stats don't mean anything, if he had played 16 games who knows how good or bad he would have been, and are you saying that DJ Hackett is better than Santana, because it sure looks like you were, there is no comparison, Santana is better and always will be better than DJ Hackett.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

First of all, TD's is the most important recieving stat, I don't care how many field goals a reciever sets up, a TD is more important. Second of all, TD's isnt his only stat where he is good. Over 7 games played (including the playoff game) he had 38 receptions (that's 5.5 receptions per game which is under 1 reception per game less than Keyshawns 102 catches) he also had 485 yards over 7 games played. That is averaging 70 yards per game. Santana Moss had 67 receptions over 15 games played (including the playoff game). That is 4.5 receptions per game, which is a larger difference from Hackett than Hackett was from Johnson. Moss had 876 yards over 15 games played which is 58 yards per game. That is 12 yards less than Hackett.

Seeing that Seattle was a pass first team this season and with all the injuries to their recieving core I am not suprised he got those yards at all.