Source: Dallas Cowboys discuss deal for Pacman Jones

[dmek25]

attitude issues aside, he is easily worth the gamble of a 5th round pick. if he suddenly "gets" it, could be a pro bowler. the boy can flat out ball. just needs to grow up alittle. some grow up faster then others. on the other hand, if he never matures, all that is lost is a late round draft pick.

[riggins44]

IF Pacman gets it then a 5th round pick would be a steal. "IF" to me is the biggest factor. He reminds me of Ricky Williams and others that had the talent, but never really realized what they had.

His track record shows that he doesn't understand and believe he will
do it again.

Sean Taylor is a prime example of a kid that needed to mature and finally
woke up. Unfortunately he didn't get to fully realize his potential. Pacman doesn't understand how lucky he really is.

[lwiedy]

Originally Posted by dmek25

attitude issues aside, he is easily worth the gamble of a 5th round pick. if he suddenly "gets" it, could be a pro bowler. the boy can flat out ball. just needs to grow up alittle. some grow up faster then others. on the other hand, if he never matures, all that is lost is a late round draft pick.

Talent issues aside, Heath Shuler was the greatest QB in 'Skins history.

[SeanTaylor21]

I wouldn't give up any less than a fifth rounder for him, or if he really showed that he has changed I would give a fourth rounder for him but nothing more.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by lwiedy

Talent issues aside, Heath Shuler was the greatest QB in 'Skins history.

huh?

[Stuck in TX]

Originally Posted by dmek25

huh?

I think he meant congressman.

[lwiedy]

Originally Posted by dmek25

huh?

I really didn't think this was going to need translation, but saying "attitude issues aside" with Jones is just as ridiculous as saying other than the fact that Shuler sucked, he was a great QB.

Attitude issues have been the central theme in the professional career of this guy, to discuss him with "attitude issues aside" would be nonsensical considering the only reason he is available in the first place is because of ATTITUDE ISSUES.

[Stuck in TX]

Originally Posted by lwiedy

I really didn't think this was going to need translation, but saying "attitude issues aside" with Jones is just as ridiculous as saying other than the fact that Shuler sucked, he was a great QB.

Attitude issues have been the central theme in the professional career of this guy, to discuss him with "attitude issues aside" would be nonsensical considering the only reason he is available in the first place is because of ATTITUDE ISSUES.

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.... gotcha.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by lwiedy

I really didn't think this was going to need translation, but saying "attitude issues aside" with Jones is just as ridiculous as saying other than the fact that Shuler sucked, he was a great QB.

Attitude issues have been the central theme in the professional career of this guy, to discuss him with "attitude issues aside" would be nonsensical considering the only reason he is available in the first place is because of ATTITUDE ISSUES.

let me ask you something. can Adam Jones change his attitude? or for that matter, can anyone change their attitude? this has been done a million times over. especially when big money is involved. now, part 2 to the question. could Heath Shuler turn into a pro bowl quarterback? i don't think so. you only have so much talent to work with. no matter how hard he worked, he would have mediocre, at best. this was a very dumb analogy. and right now, if Jones would get his head on straight, he would easily be the best corner on the redskins

[mooby]

Well there's always the small chance that he comes back and isn't the same player as before. I'm saying this because people that have been away and not practicing from the game come back and don't always adjust well, i.e. Jamal Lewis after he served his 4 month prison term. And besides, who's to say Goodell is gonna reinstate him? He could suspend him for another season just to prove his point.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by mooby

Well there's always the small chance that he comes back and isn't the same player as before. I'm saying this because people that have been away and not practicing from the game come back and don't always adjust well, i.e. Jamal Lewis after he served his 4 month prison term. And besides, who's to say Goodell is gonna reinstate him? He could suspend him for another season just to prove his point.

Great point.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by mooby

Well there's always the small chance that he comes back and isn't the same player as before. I'm saying this because people that have been away and not practicing from the game come back and don't always adjust well, i.e. Jamal Lewis after he served his 4 month prison term. And besides, who's to say Goodell is gonna reinstate him? He could suspend him for another season just to prove his point.

I think there needs to be some level of responsibility to the public here. There are so many young kids growing up playing sports and seeing these guys as their heroes. Do really want them thinking "well, if I screw up bad I can still come back and make it based on my talent alone?" .. In my opinion, I think the NFL needs to lock this kind of behavior up and ban these guys.

[2BIG2BSKINNY]

I offer no commentary about fans speculation of a player who merits his bad reputation, but remember that in a war the other side is always the worst of people till they join your side.
I hate the cowboys but I actually think he will do well were he goes. However unpopular this opinion is.
The skins should not think of adding Pac to the team as we finally have a great core of players to mold into a major outfit that will compete over the years.

[HOGS"WILD"FAN7TY7]

Well we need to jump all over this. If we can sign him cheap it will be worth it. People can change. Rodger and Smoot need help out there. I never liked springs. He has been burnt too many times...

We also need a OT.!!! bad.... Watch the Seattle game in the playoffs. Who got beat all day long and put a beating on collins. We never had time to throw the ball. Heir is a good backup but our original starters when not hurt are getting old... We need a OLineman that can handle fast speed rushers....

All in all, focus on cornerback and a defensive line man (DE/Tackle) and most importantly an OT / OG that can play both....we have depth at linebacker... blades is kick butt good.. We can pick up another safety and focus on OL/DL/WR pickup pacman and we will be good to go for the superbowl

[Tha Posse]

You never liked Springs. What don't you like about him exactly? Dallas can sell there soul and get this idiot if they want, who cares!