Source: Dallas Cowboys discuss deal for Pacman Jones

[lwiedy]

Originally Posted by dmek25

attitude issues aside, he is easily worth the gamble of a 5th round pick. if he suddenly "gets" it, could be a pro bowler. the boy can flat out ball. just needs to grow up alittle. some grow up faster then others. on the other hand, if he never matures, all that is lost is a late round draft pick.

Talent issues aside, Heath Shuler was the greatest QB in 'Skins history.

[SeanTaylor21]

I wouldn't give up any less than a fifth rounder for him, or if he really showed that he has changed I would give a fourth rounder for him but nothing more.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by lwiedy

Talent issues aside, Heath Shuler was the greatest QB in 'Skins history.

huh?

[Stuck in TX]

Originally Posted by dmek25

huh?

I think he meant congressman.

[lwiedy]

Originally Posted by dmek25

huh?

I really didn't think this was going to need translation, but saying "attitude issues aside" with Jones is just as ridiculous as saying other than the fact that Shuler sucked, he was a great QB.

Attitude issues have been the central theme in the professional career of this guy, to discuss him with "attitude issues aside" would be nonsensical considering the only reason he is available in the first place is because of ATTITUDE ISSUES.

[Stuck in TX]

Originally Posted by lwiedy

I really didn't think this was going to need translation, but saying "attitude issues aside" with Jones is just as ridiculous as saying other than the fact that Shuler sucked, he was a great QB.

Attitude issues have been the central theme in the professional career of this guy, to discuss him with "attitude issues aside" would be nonsensical considering the only reason he is available in the first place is because of ATTITUDE ISSUES.

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.... gotcha.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by lwiedy

I really didn't think this was going to need translation, but saying "attitude issues aside" with Jones is just as ridiculous as saying other than the fact that Shuler sucked, he was a great QB.

Attitude issues have been the central theme in the professional career of this guy, to discuss him with "attitude issues aside" would be nonsensical considering the only reason he is available in the first place is because of ATTITUDE ISSUES.

let me ask you something. can Adam Jones change his attitude? or for that matter, can anyone change their attitude? this has been done a million times over. especially when big money is involved. now, part 2 to the question. could Heath Shuler turn into a pro bowl quarterback? i don't think so. you only have so much talent to work with. no matter how hard he worked, he would have mediocre, at best. this was a very dumb analogy. and right now, if Jones would get his head on straight, he would easily be the best corner on the redskins

[lwiedy]

Originally Posted by dmek25

let me ask you something. can Adam Jones change his attitude? or for that matter, can anyone change their attitude? this has been done a million times over. especially when big money is involved. now, part 2 to the question. could Heath Shuler turn into a pro bowl quarterback? i don't think so. you only have so much talent to work with. no matter how hard he worked, he would have mediocre, at best. this was a very dumb analogy. and right now, if Jones would get his head on straight, he would easily be the best corner on the redskins

I guess the problems with analogies are they are only as effective as the reader is coherent. AGAIN, I am not comparing anything between Shuler and Jones, nothing between talent and attitude. The analogy was to show that “putting attitude aside” in regards to Jones was simply ridiculous. It is the key issue of his availability. To ignore it is to be a fan, not someone responsible for an organization.

I am retiring from this thread (no matter what nonsensical reply follows) only because the basic premise is I dislike obnoxious punks, no matter how talented. I wish to be proud of my team and it has nothing to do with W-L’s. Victory without honor is hollow. Your standard is quite obviously different.