Rule changes that passed

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Basically if you are to much of a vag and you can't make a decision you let the other team.

I didn't know this was a rule in the NFL, but I had always noticed that in the NFL teams will always take the ball if they win the toss, but in college teams often choose to kick off (actually, what they do is defer the choice). I am assuming, then, that previously when you won the toss in the NFL you could choose to kick or receive, but if you chose to kick then you would actually end up kicking twice because winning the toss simply gave you the opportunity to choose kick/receive for the first half and in the opening of the second half the other team would obviously choose to receive (since they lost the coin toss in the first half they would then be given the chance to choose in the second). Now a team could defer the choice to the second half, thereby giving themselves the ability to receive coming out of the half - whereas previously that was not possible.

Previously, just because you kicked off in the first half did not give the right to receive in the second. It only worked that way because the team that won the toss would always choose to receive (so as not to kick off twice) and thus in the second half the other team would (essentially by default, because who would give up a possession) receive. If you chose to kick in the first you would end up kicking off in both halves because the team that lost the toss in the first would get first choice in the second NFL Rules Digest: Coin Toss. It doesn't work like this in Madden (perhaps where some of the confusion stems from) because there if you choose to kick in the first half you automatically receive in the second.

So that is a long way of saying it has nothing to do with being a "vag", as you put it.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

I didn't know this was a rule in the NFL, but I had always noticed that in the NFL teams will always take the ball if they win the toss, but in college teams often choose to kick off (actually, what they do is defer the choice). I am assuming, then, that previously when you won the toss in the NFL you could choose to kick or receive, but if you chose to kick then you would actually end up kicking twice because winning the toss simply gave you the opportunity to choose kick/receive for the first half and in the opening of the second half the other team would obviously choose to receive (since they lost the coin toss in the first half they would then be given the chance to choose in the second). Now a team could defer the choice to the second half, thereby giving themselves the ability to receive coming out of the half - whereas previously that was not possible.

Previously, just because you kicked off in the first half did not give the right to receive in the second. It only worked that way because the team that won the toss would always choose to receive (so as not to kick off twice) and thus in the second half the other team would (essentially by default, because who would give up a possession) receive. If you chose to kick in the first you would end up kicking off in both halves because the team that lost the toss in the first would get first choice in the second NFL Rules Digest: Coin Toss. It doesn't work like this in Madden (perhaps where some of the confusion stems from) because there if you choose to kick in the first half you automatically receive in the second.

So that is a long way of saying it has nothing to do with being a "vag", as you put it.

Honestly I think the way it is in Madden messed me up too on this.

Most of the time in Madden I choose to kickoff so I can have the ball first in the 2nd half. I guess I just thought that was the way it is in the NFL too.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Honestly I think the way it is in Madden messed me up too on this.

Most of the time in Madden I choose to kickoff so I can have the ball first in the 2nd half. I guess I just thought that was the way it is in the NFL too.

I do too, which is why I thought maybe that was where the confusion stemmed from (being that it is such a cultural icon). I actually didn't know you couldn't defer in the NFL until I saw this thread and saw that they were instituting the rule. I had actually always wondered why I had never seen a team win the toss and do anything but choose to receive, even though that happens all the time in high school and college. Now that makes perfect sense.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

I do too, which is why I thought maybe that was where the confusion stemmed from (being that it is such a cultural icon). I actually didn't know you couldn't defer in the NFL until I saw this thread and saw that they were instituting the rule. I had actually always wondered why I had never seen a team win the toss and do anything but choose to receive, even though that happens all the time in high school and college. Now that makes perfect sense.

Interesting, and I was wrong. Well I was kinda joking about the whole "vag" thing because I did not know what deferring met.