Jerome Mathis signed

[That Guy]

he's hella fast and has a lot of upside.... but he also straggles his girlfriend, so...

I mean, i guess he had to land somewhere, but besides some punt return stuff, i'm not sure it's really worth it.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Jerome Mathis has Kickoff returns for TD, he didnt really do Punts that much in Houston

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Jerome Mathis has Kickoff returns for TD, he didnt really do Punts that much in Houston

my mistake...but I still dont see this as a reason to dump betts

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

my mistake...but I still dont see this as a reason to dump betts

didn't say it was

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Jerome Mathis: Career Stats

hes mostly a kick returner

[jsarno]

OK, I will admit, I do not know much about Mathis off the field issues, but this guy is a GREAT kick returner. One of the best in the league. I for one and glad he is here. Cartwright had good numbers, but he benefitted from better ST coaching. If Mathis were doing those kickoffs, he would have done better. Of course, that is just my opinion though. I look forward to seeing what he could do.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by jsarno

OK, I will admit, I do not know much about Mathis off the field issues, but this guy is a GREAT kick returner. One of the best in the league. I for one and glad he is here. Cartwright had good numbers, but he benefitted from better ST coaching. If Mathis were doing those kickoffs, he would have done better. Of course, that is just my opinion though. I look forward to seeing what he could do.

I agree with you, I think that he and Cartwright will be very deadly on kickoff returns. Didn't Mathis turn in the fastest combine 40 time ever?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

I agree with you, I think that he and Cartwright will be very deadly on kickoff returns. Didn't Mathis turn in the fastest combine 40 time ever?

No that honor goes to Dieon Sanders. I believe his 40 time was 4.18. However Mathis apparently ran a 4.1 at his pro day.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

I agree with you, I think that he and Cartwright will be very deadly on kickoff returns. Didn't Mathis turn in the fastest combine 40 time ever?

Not sure if it was the fastest ever, but according to nfldraftscout.com he ran a 4.28. That's pretty darn fast.
Jerome Mathis, WR, Hampton - 2005 NFL Draft Scout Profile, Powered by The SportsXchange

He possibly ran faster at his pro day.

All this talk about his character seems to be stemming from 1 incident. Granted it's not a good incident, but who knows, the "common law" wife could have made it up cause she was being hormonal. To label the guy as poor character after 1 incident is not in good taste.
Then again, if you guys know of other incidents, I'd like to hear them, and I will change my judgement.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by jsarno

All this talk about his character seems to be stemming from 1 incident. Granted it's not a good incident, but who knows, the "common law" wife could have made it up cause she was being hormonal. To label the guy as poor character after 1 incident is not in good taste.

Just shaking my head.... why am I not surprised.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Just shaking my head.... why am I not surprised.

Point is, a ONE time issue isn't always true. I am in no way defending someone striking his wife, but why is there no pictures of her with a bruise or anything?
Also, people that strike women, don't do it once. They are habitual. Why is it this is the ONLY case of Mathis striking someone??? Just doesn't add up right now. I could be wrong (I hope I am not cause no woman deserves to be struck by a man) but why is everyone so eager to convict?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Just shaking my head.... why am I not surprised.

A LOT of domestic and even sexual cases have stronger testimony than what happened and there have been many many which were shown to be that way.. and also many that landed someone in trouble who shouldn't have been.

Duke Lacrosse case is a high profile one. I had a friend accused of rape by a girl and turns out her boyfriend found out (it was at a party) so she lied and that got found out.

On the flip side, I once called the cops while at my cousins' fathers house because of a guy screaming at his wife and her crying violently, though it didn't seem like any violence was going on, it was just over the edge for my comfort level. Their family got pissed at me because apparently they never got a permit to build another house on it (the one the couple was renting) and thought that they would get found out or something. They told me they always fight and there was nothing wrong. 5 months later, he killed her, and I wasn't big enough of a douche to say, "I told you so" but I very well could have.

At the end of the day, it can go either way, and unless you were there, you don't know what happened and neither do I, but it's not my deal to judge and accuse him of something that I know nothing about. Who knows if she was attacking him and he was trying to hold her off? Too much to speculate and I don't see why we have armchair eyewitnesses here.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by jsarno

the "common law" wife could have made it up cause she was being hormonal.

Man..this "common law" wife must have amazing powers to convert her imagination into physical choke marks on her neck...what a bee-och....either that or she asked a friend to choke her to make marks or her neck so she could drag this guys name in the mud.....and then decline charging him.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Man..this "common law" wife must have amazing powers to convert her imagination into physical choke marks on her neck...what a bee-och....either that or she asked a friend to choke her to make marks or her neck so she could drag this guys name in the mud.....and then decline charging him.

So was she struck, or choked?
Some people aren't getting the point that it might not be 100% accurate. At this point, no one really knows.
If he did it, I don't want him. But have we NEVER heard of some woman making up a story???? (not saying she is, just saying) You also can't tell me that a girl 6 months pregnant isn't hormonal either.
At this point, its A- a 1 time incident, B- no real proof, C- unsure of how "red marks on neck" is being "struck", D- please provide a picture of the red marks so we can all see it as something that wasn't a hickey or a curling iron incident...or even a birth mark. Then maybe we can make a more accurate judgement. Right now, it's all hearsay and quite frankly I am concerned about people's insistance on being the judge and jury in this case, and ready to kick him out.

[Redskins8588]

Yeah, I knew the Deon Sanders has/had the fasted combine time but I am pretty sure that mathis time was faster...